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What Healthcare is Better? Korea, UK or Canada?
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usurname wrote:
Beeyee wrote:
The UK's healthcare is 3rd world standard.

I've known of 3 people DIE whilst waiting to see a specialist or have surgery. One of them was diagnosed with stomach cancer and told to wait 2 months until the next surgery slot opened up. He died before the scheduled date.


Can you pay extra and get faster service?


Rich Canadians do it all the time; it's called the US of A. Top medical hospitals don't discriminate when it comes to cash.

In Korea, either have a lot of money saved up or have a huge amount of credit cards to pull the cash off. You might go bankrupt later, but you only live on the earth once.

There's also secondary insurance some folks buy and we should too even if we don't.
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rainman3277



Joined: 13 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
Scotland - , instant help for emergencies, .


I always hate having to sit in the waiting room while I'm having a hear attack in those other countries
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le-paul



Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hokie21 wrote:
le-paul wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
For me, it's a toss up.

Korea - cheap prescription meds. Easy access to testing. But lack of confidence in medical staff.
Canada - free services. Confidence in medical staff. Expensive meds.


I wouldn't say cheap meds are a positive - theyre not very well regulated/tested as far as i know and probably not all that safe.


The vast majority of the cheap med's I've received over here are major name brands, Pfizer, Merck, AZ....and they were much cheaper than the generics you'd get in US. Seemed safe enough to me.


Yeah, thats right.

I should have specified that I meant the cheap, knock off copies (like asprin/antibiotics etc.). The good stuff is definitely cheaper here.

Its really not worth cost cutting when you can buy smith klien for an extra chon won.
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le-paul



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can honestly say from having worked for the NHS for quite a few years before coming here, that the UK health system is far from perfect.

However, I would say in its defence which I was always proud of, is that we aspire for excellence and are always re-evaluating, auditing, and educating.

I always found that lesser of health care was due to understaffed services, budgets, and lack of facilities. Money money and money.

In korea, willful ignorance seems to be the leading cause of bad practice.
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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: What Healthcare is Better? Korea, UK or Canada? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:

Korea does not have universal health care and there is a lot that is not covered or has very high co-payments (US style). It wouldn't be my retirement option.

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Korea has compulsory insurance and basic treatment is covered and cost-controlled. That qualifies as a type of universal healthcare.

Obviously, it isn't a single-payer system, like Canada or the UK. Korea has a multi-payer system financed by co-pays and employee/employer premiums.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: What Healthcare is Better? Korea, UK or Canada? Reply with quote

Wildbore wrote:
ttompatz wrote:

Korea does not have universal health care and there is a lot that is not covered or has very high co-payments (US style). It wouldn't be my retirement option.

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Korea has compulsory insurance and basic treatment is covered and cost-controlled. That qualifies as a type of universal healthcare.

Obviously, it isn't a single-payer system, like Canada or the UK. Korea has a multi-payer system financed by co-pays and employee/employer premiums.


Korea's "compulsory insurance" has no enforcement therefore is not universal (see how many hagwon teachers don't have NHIC).
You can be denied treatment if you don't have the ability to pay so not universal.

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Wildbore



Joined: 17 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: What Healthcare is Better? Korea, UK or Canada? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Wildbore wrote:
ttompatz wrote:

Korea does not have universal health care and there is a lot that is not covered or has very high co-payments (US style). It wouldn't be my retirement option.

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Korea has compulsory insurance and basic treatment is covered and cost-controlled. That qualifies as a type of universal healthcare.

Obviously, it isn't a single-payer system, like Canada or the UK. Korea has a multi-payer system financed by co-pays and employee/employer premiums.


Korea's "compulsory insurance" has no enforcement therefore is not universal (see how many hagwon teachers don't have NHIC).
You can be denied treatment if you don't have the ability to pay so not universal.

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In principle, it is compulsory and universal. The enforcement issue is mostly foreigners being ignorant and failing to realize they don't have NHIC or failing to do anything, like complain, when they find out. At the end of the day, even if they don't complain, NHIC allows anyone to register individually and pay the average premium.

Based on your argument, Canada doesn't have universal healthcare either. When Ontario was phasing out its old Health insurance cards in favor of photo-cards (there was over 5 years to change), uninformed or lazy people were regularly denied treatment for not having an up-to-date card.

No need to get strung up on technicalities affecting very small segments of the population.
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