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cmxc
Joined: 19 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:10 am Post subject: Things Koreans still seem unable to realize |
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Profound perspective from a Korean writer:
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Traditionally, the Korean people are not particularly interested in learning about the world or becoming globalized. Surrounded by numerous small mountains and isolated from the rest of the world, Koreans are comfortable on this small peninsula and thus tend to be unaware about the world.
This tendency dates back to the Joseon Dynasty when Koreans thought the world was made of only three kingdoms: China, Japan and Korea. Therefore, when Crown Prince Sohyeon brought a world atlas from China in the 17th century, King Injo and his cabinet members were greatly alarmed and immediately destroyed the map. They could not accept the possibility that other countries existed. Prince Sohyeon, who might have modernized Korea if he had inherited the throne, was killed by the king’s decree. In the eyes of the king, the crown prince’s knowledge of the world was too dangerous.
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On the other side of the fence, there are those who exhibit delusions of grandeur. These conceited people mistakenly believe that South Korea has become a superpower that can comfortably compete with China, Japan and the United States. They also believe hallyu has dominated the whole world and all the people on earth watch Korean TV dramas, movies and K-pop performances. They also naively believe that since the Korean Peninsula is so strategically important, our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Things Koreans still seem unable to realize
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20141014001197 |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Things Koreans still seem unable to realize |
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cmxc wrote: |
Profound perspective from a Korean writer:
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Traditionally, the Korean people are not particularly interested in learning about the world or becoming globalized. Surrounded by numerous small mountains and isolated from the rest of the world, Koreans are comfortable on this small peninsula and thus tend to be unaware about the world.
This tendency dates back to the Joseon Dynasty when Koreans thought the world was made of only three kingdoms: China, Japan and Korea. Therefore, when Crown Prince Sohyeon brought a world atlas from China in the 17th century, King Injo and his cabinet members were greatly alarmed and immediately destroyed the map. They could not accept the possibility that other countries existed. Prince Sohyeon, who might have modernized Korea if he had inherited the throne, was killed by the king’s decree. In the eyes of the king, the crown prince’s knowledge of the world was too dangerous.
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On the other side of the fence, there are those who exhibit delusions of grandeur. These conceited people mistakenly believe that South Korea has become a superpower that can comfortably compete with China, Japan and the United States. They also believe hallyu has dominated the whole world and all the people on earth watch Korean TV dramas, movies and K-pop performances. They also naively believe that since the Korean Peninsula is so strategically important, our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Things Koreans still seem unable to realize
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20141014001197 |
If they are comfortable, then I don't see a problem with it. There is conceit and ignorance in every country. Everybody wants to feel good, don't they? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Scratch the beer n stripper idea for cmxc. I think the guy needs a week in Amsterdam. |
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optik404
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think the historical insight can add to one's understanding of Korea.
The second paragraph quoted sure sounded a lot like NK, though, didn't it?
As for feeling comfortable, that's positive to a degree, but it also can make it hard to instigate change that would foster progress. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Plus considering that most Koreans kind of vie for some kind of power or social position, whether earned or forced (like the age thing), I always look at the ears-covered "we are the best" thing as kind of a cheap band-aid for a mind that cannot comprehend broader (or just normal) world views, thus frog in the well.
I think thats really why the gov't has been trying to incorporate English and English teachers. I never believed any local person who talked about "Global Korea." I even thought the Dynamic Korea was funny, it was praising themselves for changing like all the world did a that time.
Well, it is because of these mindsets we will have jobs in the future. They arent changing that much, esp with the education gap growing bigger and bigger. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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we live in one of the most dangerous places in the world |
I don't think so. Been to somalia lately?
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our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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Chaparrastique wrote: |
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we live in one of the most dangerous places in the world |
I don't think so. Been to somalia lately?
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our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
Says an NET whose qualifications are an accident of birth, a degree, amd a pulse. The avetage Korean has 'earned' more than you have. Unless Im forgetting that time you engaged in demovracy marches or went from living in a house with no running water into being an engineer. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Says an NET whose qualifications are an accident of birth, a degree, amd a pulse. The avetage Korean has 'earned' more than you have. Unless Im forgetting that time you engaged in demovracy marches or went from living in a house with no running water into being an engineer. |
And now they get to collect cardboard with me, bent over like your ...(insert mom joke). |
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yodanole
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: La Florida
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think that the Korean people are failing to realize full value from a certain "native speaker" foreign English teacher. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Steelrails wrote: |
Chaparrastique wrote: |
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we live in one of the most dangerous places in the world |
I don't think so. Been to somalia lately?
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our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
Says an NET whose qualifications are an accident of birth, a degree, amd a pulse. The avetage Korean has 'earned' more than you have. Unless Im forgetting that time you engaged in demovracy marches or went from living in a house with no running water into being an engineer. |
From a Hindu perspective, there are no accidents of birth. That's earned karma. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Location: Testicles for Eyes
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Chaparrastique wrote: |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
Members of the current young generation who happen to live in Gangnam and similar places do not the whole country make. |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:12 am Post subject: |
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My qualifications include opposable thumbs.
Man, I hate to agree with SteelRails. Korea worked very hard to succeed but also took many shortcuts.
Steelrails wrote: |
Chaparrastique wrote: |
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we live in one of the most dangerous places in the world |
I don't think so. Been to somalia lately?
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our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
Says an NET whose qualifications are an accident of birth, a degree, amd a pulse. The avetage Korean has 'earned' more than you have. Unless Im forgetting that time you engaged in demovracy marches or went from living in a house with no running water into being an engineer. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Steelrails wrote: |
Chaparrastique wrote: |
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we live in one of the most dangerous places in the world |
I don't think so. Been to somalia lately?
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our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
Says an NET whose qualifications are an accident of birth, a degree, amd a pulse. The avetage Korean has 'earned' more than you have. Unless Im forgetting that time you engaged in demovracy marches or went from living in a house with no running water into being an engineer. |
The Japanese gave them their infrastructure and general civilisation.
They introduced them to things like the wheel, for example.
Then the US gave them the money to develop. As well as winning their war for them and giving 64 years of free military security. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Chaparrastique wrote: |
Steelrails wrote: |
Chaparrastique wrote: |
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we live in one of the most dangerous places in the world |
I don't think so. Been to somalia lately?
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our neighbors will constantly flatter us and our allies will never give up on us. |
Korea is the spoiled teenager of the world.
Was given everything easy and thus appreciates none of it. |
Says an NET whose qualifications are an accident of birth, a degree, amd a pulse. The avetage Korean has 'earned' more than you have. Unless Im forgetting that time you engaged in demovracy marches or went from living in a house with no running water into being an engineer. |
The Japanese gave them their infrastructure and general civilisation.
They introduced them to things like the wheel, for example.
Then the US gave them the money to develop. As well as winning their war for them and giving 64 years of free military security. |
Korea has had the wheel long before 1910. Do you actually believe that? |
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