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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:08 am    Post subject: Here comes the filthy air from China. Reply with quote

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2014/11/06/2014110601553.html
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a non-issue.

Air from China is toxic no doubt but by the time in reaches Korea it has been diluted thousands or millions of times.

It basically has zero effect on Korea.

Korea remains pristine and I don't expect PM 2.5 levels in Korea to go out of the green safe zone.

You can rest your little head.
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Chaparrastique



Joined: 01 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
It basically has zero effect on Korea.

Korea remains pristine and I don't expect PM 2.5 levels in Korea to go out of the green safe zone.


Koreas forested hills tend to act as an air purifier.

Sometimes though it has been bad enough to irritate/redden the eyes.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"Experts estimate 30-40 per cent of fine dust particles that originate in China move into Korea."

http://news.asiaone.com/news/asia/yellow-dust-worsens-korea

A sizable portion of the yellow dust originating in China makes its way into Korea. That mixed with pollution made in Korea can be unhealthy to breathe.
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ironjohn



Joined: 25 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pretty bad air quality expected for Monday (for Seoul at least). I've been using this site, and there's a forecast at the bottom:

http://aqicn.org/city/seoul/

I broke down and wore a mask a couple times recently, looks like I'll be doing it again.
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironjohn wrote:
Some pretty bad air quality expected for Monday (for Seoul at least). I've been using this site, and there's a forecast at the bottom:

http://aqicn.org/city/seoul/

I broke down and wore a mask a couple times recently, looks like I'll be doing it again.


A mask is useless against the pm 2.5 dust. You need a respiratory to take care of that.
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ironjohn



Joined: 25 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, I used the generic term. "I broke down and wore an N95 particulate respirator." There are plenty without a valve though, and these filter pm2.5

Here are some links for those interested in wearing one:

http://aqicn.org/mask/
http://www.myhealthbeijing.com/china-public-health/n95-pollution-masks-buyers-guide-fit-test/
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/respsource.html
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*Sutebia*



Joined: 30 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:16 am    Post subject: Any mask is ok for the Yello Dust 황사 Reply with quote

The PM2.5 pollution in Seoul is our own. If you look at the sounding areas during bad days like outer 경기 or 인천 they have 40-80 PM2.5 when Seoul is 100-200. This is not China its Ours! Shit old cars, coal burning, factories, BBQ, and yes okay busses with Chinese tourists.

The Yellow dust is PM10 and if you dodnt have a Particulate Respirator on hand just stay inside or use a simple mask


creeper1... Korea Safe ??? you need to look at the quality every day. We have shit air, not China shit but PM2.5 is usually 60-120 most days.
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nicwr2002



Joined: 17 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ironjohn wrote:
True, I used the generic term. "I broke down and wore an N95 particulate respirator." There are plenty without a valve though, and these filter pm2.5

Here are some links for those interested in wearing one:

http://aqicn.org/mask/
http://www.myhealthbeijing.com/china-public-health/n95-pollution-masks-buyers-guide-fit-test/
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/respsource.html


Thanks for the links!
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Any mask is ok for the Yello Dust 황사 Reply with quote

*Sutebia* wrote:


creeper1... Korea Safe ??? you need to look at the quality every day. We have shit air, not China shit but PM2.5 is usually 60-120 most days.


Of course it is all relative but, here in Beijing, 60-120 for pm2.5 levels are a godsend. Levels such as that mean its time to run outside and breathe the good air.

I wish the levels were 60-120 more often.

As I said, for all intents and purposes, Korea is pristine and that includes even Seoul.
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have these.

http://www.amazon.com/Respro-Techno-Replacement-Filter-Large/dp/B000NOTQ7G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1426470086&sr=8-2&keywords=Techno+Replacement+Filter

and this.

http://www.amazon.com/Respro-Techno-Anti-Pollution-Mask/dp/B00B7S96ZY/ref=pd_sim_sg_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Y6SC0PJ255FM2CGG8YD

I'm in Korea, not China. But, had read comments from these users on the website, some of whom claimed to be in China. I mostly use it in spring as I'm susceptable to bad allergies when biking in march and November. Not sure what gets in the damn air here. Anyways, it can be helpful. But the large barely fit. Not sure how Asians will adapt as some have larger heads. This company should make xl size.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Any mask is ok for the Yello Dust 황사 Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
As I said, for all intents and purposes, Korea is pristine and that includes even Seoul.

Ha ha, you've got to be kidding.

Currently 155, which is the red "unhealthy" level http://aqicn.org/city/bucheon/ compared to 197 for Beijing, which is also the red "unhealthy" level http://aqicn.org/city/beijing/ .

How about the largest city in the U.S.?
http://aqicn.org/city/newyork/
27. Much lower.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Any mask is ok for the Yello Dust 황사 Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
creeper1 wrote:
As I said, for all intents and purposes, Korea is pristine and that includes even Seoul.

Ha ha, you've got to be kidding.

Currently 155, which is the red "unhealthy" level http://aqicn.org/city/bucheon/ compared to 197 for Beijing, which is also the red "unhealthy" level http://aqicn.org/city/beijing/ .

How about the largest city in the U.S.?
http://aqicn.org/city/newyork/
27. Much lower.


You posted information about Bucheon. Bucheon is very close to Seoul but isn't actually Seoul I believe. It is in Gyeonggi Do

That's like me posting info for Baoding (close to Beijing) as passing it off as Beijing.

http://aqicn.org/city/baoding/

As I said for all intents and purposes Korea is pristine.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? Bucheon is right on the edge of Seoul. It close to the border of the city limits and only a few miles away from Seoul's city center. Baoding on the other hand is 100 miles (150km) away from Beijing. Not the same thing.

The center of Seoul is 125 now which can't be good to breathe.

China: most unhealthy air in the world.

South Korea: not quite as bad as China but still unhealthy.

American air: healthy to breathe
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now Seoul is 181 http://aqicn.org/city/korea/seoul/yeongdeungpo/ , Daegu is 175 http://aqicn.org/city/korea/daegu/sangyeog-dong/ , and Busan is 156 http://aqicn.org/city/busan/. All of these are firmly in the "unhealthy" range. How could the air be "pristine"? 50 and under is considered "good". This is what it is like in America now:

Los Angeles: 14 http://aqicn.org/city/losangeles

Denver: 16 http://aqicn.org/city/usa/colorado/i-25-denver

Seattle: 23 http://aqicn.org/city/seattle

Salt Lake City: 26 http://aqicn.org/city/utah/salt-lake-city

Portland: 30 http://aqicn.org/city/usa/oregon/portland

Boston: 39 http://aqicn.org/city/boston/
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