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Is there really discrimination against hiring non-whites?
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homer521



Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul (prev Fairfax, VA)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:07 pm    Post subject: Is there really discrimination against hiring non-whites? Reply with quote

I hear most schools pretty much discriminate against hiring non-whites because they feel typical caucasian teachers is what sells or brings students/business into their schools.

I'd like to hear what you guys know on this topic. If it's true, can anyone recommened me a school that might hire a twinkie Wink like myself. I was born and raised in the States.. you can't get any "whiter" than me Wink

Thanks in advance.
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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there really discrimination against hiring non-whites Reply with quote

homer521 wrote:
I hear most schools pretty much discriminate against hiring non-whites because they feel typical caucasian teachers is what sells or brings students/business into their schools.

I'd like to hear what you guys know on this topic. If it's true, can anyone recommened me a school that might hire a twinkie Wink like myself. I was born and raised in the States.. you can't get any "whiter" than me Wink

Thanks in advance.


1 what is a twinkie?

2 yes schools do discriminate. My first hogwan instructed the director when hiring that the first thing to ask on the phone was, are you white? if not then no - go...

however since then I haven't worked anywhere where discrimination was evident.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimcheeking: It's a phrase, replaceable with banana, that basically means someone is yellow(Asian) on the outside, and white(duh) on the inside. In other words...not a real Asian.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
kimcheeking: It's a phrase, replaceable with banana, that basically means someone is yellow(Asian) on the outside, and white(duh) on the inside. In other words...not a real Asian.


oh... been here 6 years and I didn't know that.... d'uh! thanks for the info.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimcheeking wrote:
oh... been here 6 years and I didn't know that.... d'uh! thanks for the info.


Sure, no prob, though it's not something you'd pick up from being here. It's a Western slander, or, at the least, used by Asians not in Asia.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
kimcheeking: It's a phrase, replaceable with banana, that basically means someone is yellow(Asian) on the outside, and white(duh) on the inside. In other words...not a real Asian.


Well, a twinkie can also be a girl who acts very immature for her age.

Another word for what you are describing (and more common) is an egg.

(white out, yellow in).
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FierceInvalid



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the discrimination is real, but moreso against ethnicities that are neither white nor Asian (well, east Asian/Korean, anyway). Are you of Korean descent? Then you could quite easily get a job, but the terms wouldn't be as good as if you were white. If you aren't ethnically Korean, I'd imagine it would be much more difficult, though I suppose not impossible.
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chi-chi



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2003 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try. I worked with a guy in Korea who looked Arabic. I'm also in Taiwan now, and work with a black girl. Just give it a shot.
**It's their attitude once you're hired that may give you the greater problem.**
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homer521



Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul (prev Fairfax, VA)

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice guys. I'll guess I'll just have to try and see what happens.

Btw, I'm a Korean-American, and last time I checked, still a REAL Asian! Wink

Take it easy guys.
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allnitedj72



Joined: 09 Mar 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:00 pm    Post subject: Twinkies Rule! Reply with quote

Aha! At least I'm not the only twinkie on here. Puwahahahaha!

Homer521, good luck.. Hope to see you over there soon!
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homer521



Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul (prev Fairfax, VA)

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dj. Maybe I'll hit some of you guys up, depending on where I'll be located.

I can't believe these freakin hagwon directors are racist against their own people.. greedy ass mf's!!
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah korea is crazy.. but i do see some ads for looking specifically for kyopos (korean-ethnicity foreigners)..
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kiddblount



Joined: 12 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure bias is out there, but if u look hard enough, u can find something . . .
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homer521



Joined: 24 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul (prev Fairfax, VA)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

.. but i do see some ads for looking specifically for kyopos

that's interesting TigerBeer. I'll just be sure to search far & wide.
Thanks all for your help fellas.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are about 1000 of them.. i posted as another response to the problems you had on another thread as well.. if you are still having problems.. i'll spend an hour or two of my own time and quickly post 40-50 extremely recent job postings.. i see them just about everywhere.. and it actually takes more time doing the cutting and pasting.. first step is search for 'english teachers korea' on any search engine.. then start click on 'jobs offered'.. and look in the most recent.. within 5 minutes i pulled down a good 100 or so of them.. i'm too lazy to cut and paste every single one of the them.. but if you are still having problems.. i'll do that here for you..

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We also need 1 perfect bilingual female Kyopo teacher who can perform a director(supervisor) job of an institute. (we prefer in her late 20's and early 30's) The director's annual salary is 30 million won. No commissions from teachers, so feel free to contact~!

Name of employer AimHigh Recruiting C Contact person Jennifer Lee
Email noblemind@kebi.com
http://myhome.naver.com/mmenglish
Phone 02-906-1585 Fax --
Mobile --
Address 904-9, Daechi 4-dong, Kangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea, Seoul, Korea

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Direct English is looking for a Gyopo teacher (Lived overseas for 25 years or more) who can work part-time(5:30pm~9:30pm) from Monday-Friday in our Youido or Jongro center. If you're interested in the position please call our office at 02-533-6840~3 or email us. Also don't forget to check out our website at www.directenglish.co.kr

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School/Company Michigan campus 어학원
Contact Name 원장
Phone 011-778-2026 Fax 02-968-0590
E-mail esolution24@yahoo.co.kr
Preferences Male/Female
Kyopo (ethnically Korean foreigner)
Korean
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School/Company Oedae Readingtown Institute
Contact Name Jennifer
Phone 032-325-0509 Fax
E-mail teiplc@hanmail.net
Preferences Male/Female
Kyopo (ethnically Korean foreigner)
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School/Company Korea Herald
Contact Name Julie
Phone 031-266-0594 Fax 031-266-1981
E-mail suji0594@kornet.net
Preferences Male/Female
Foreigner
Kyopo (ethnically Korean foreigner)

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in addition to those i briefly skimmed.. i didn't copy and paste anything from this website which has kyopo all over it.. http://englishwork.com/list/list_ss_e.htm
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