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| George W. Bush - how dumb is he? |
| Dumb like a rhino. You know, like something that just breathes a lot and wrecks stuff. Really, rhino dumb is like when you're too dumb to survive without the help of people who like rhinos. |
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23% |
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| $#!+ dumb. Like when you're dumb as $#!+. |
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| Carson Daly dumb. Dumb as dirt, but through a bit of undeserved good fortune you come into a position of influence, except you're too dumb to seize the opportunity and maybe prove that you're not as dumb as people think, because you really are that dumb. |
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| He's not dumb. You are. But not as dumb as me. |
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Apple Scruff
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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 Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject: Just how dumb is he? |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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I'd guess that any of us, however bright, would quickly be made to appear as idiots under anything close to the scrutiny Bush gets. Likewise, I'd imagine he'd be as engaging as any of us over some beers in the bar.
Its the agenda of his "handlers" that scares me. |
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keithinkorea
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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Well if I as a prominent person would be bloody careful about what I said and would make sure it was not going to make me look like a complete moron.
Bush has done so much stuff to make himself look like an idiot he must be one. |
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pet lover
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Why am I limited to casting my vote for only one option when the first three sound so wonderful? |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| rather silly OP...can't you come up with anything more meaningful? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
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rather silly OP...can't you come up with anything more meaningful?
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Yep. The "dumb" issue re: Bush is the biggest red herring around, and liberals are fooling themsleves if they think that they're scoring any points by beating this ad hominem into the ground.
Yeah, Bush is pretty thick. So what? Are his policies a result of his stupidity? Not likely, since these policies are contrived, executed, and defended by people who are a lot smarter than Bush(and probably most of us on Dave's), some of them even holding chairs at major universities. Bush is just the front man for these policies, and bringing his intelligence into the debate is a little like arguing that a particular automobile is structurally unsound because the actor who does their ads on TV doesn't know much about engineering.
LBJ wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he built the American welfare state AND plunged the nation full speed ahead into Vietnam, both policies which were devised by different factions of the American intelligentsia. Ever heard of the best and the brightest? Well, in many cases those warmongers really WERE the best and the brightest. The fact is, there is no neccessary connection between being smart and being ethical. A Ph.D can be just as selfish, corrupt, or blinded by ideology as a trade school graduate. This snickering "intellectualism" is just a respectable way for liberals to laugh at the less intelligent, by dressing their snobbery up as moral critique. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:19 am Post subject: |
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rather silly OP...can't you come up with anything more meaningful?
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Yep. The "dumb" issue re: Bush is the biggest red herring around, and liberals are fooling themsleves if they think that they're scoring any points by beating this ad hominem into the ground.
Yeah, Bush is pretty thick. So what? Are his policies a result of his stupidity? Not likely, since these policies are contrived, executed, and defended by people who are a lot smarter than Bush(and probably most of us on Dave's), some of them even holding chairs at major universities. Bush is just the front man for these policies, and bringing his intelligence into the debate is a little like arguing that a particular automobile is structurally unsound because the actor who does their ads on TV doesn't know much about engineering.
LBJ wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he built the American welfare state AND plunged the nation full speed ahead into Vietnam, both policies which were devised by different factions of the American intelligentsia. Ever heard of the best and the brightest? Well, in many cases those warmongers really WERE the best and the brightest. The fact is, there is no neccessary connection between being smart and being ethical. A Ph.D can be just as selfish, corrupt, or blinded by ideology as a trade school graduate. This snickering "intellectualism" is just a respectable way for liberals to laugh at the less intelligent, by dressing their snobbery up as moral critique. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| OTOH you think that they think of themselves as being unethical? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
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rather silly OP...can't you come up with anything more meaningful?
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Yep. The "dumb" issue re: Bush is the biggest red herring around, and liberals are fooling themsleves if they think that they're scoring any points by beating this ad hominem into the ground.
Yeah, Bush is pretty thick. So what? Are his policies a result of his stupidity? Not likely, since these policies are contrived, executed, and defended by people who are a lot smarter than Bush(and probably most of us on Dave's), some of them even holding chairs at major universities. Bush is just the front man for these policies, and bringing his intelligence into the debate is a little like arguing that a particular automobile is structurally unsound because the actor who does their ads on TV doesn't know much about engineering.
LBJ wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he built the American welfare state AND plunged the nation full speed ahead into Vietnam, both policies which were devised by different factions of the American intelligentsia. Ever heard of the best and the brightest? Well, in many cases those warmongers really WERE the best and the brightest. The fact is, there is no neccessary connection between being smart and being ethical. A Ph.D can be just as selfish, corrupt, or blinded by ideology as a trade school graduate. This snickering "intellectualism" is just a respectable way for liberals to laugh at the less intelligent, by dressing their snobbery up as moral critique. |
Who cares? Yes, of course he is not the one making the real decisions. He is just the frontman puppet boy. So? Ever heard of fun? Look it up in your dictionary, or google it. That's right: F U N. Then slither back to your hole, you nasty party pooper, and let the happy little bunnies play! |
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nasigoreng
Joined: 14 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: |
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RANDAL
(turning page and reading)
I hope it feels good.
INDECISIVE CUSTOMER
You hope what feels good?
RANDAL
I hope it feels so good to be right.
There is nothing more exhilarating
than pointing out the shortcomings
of others, is there? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| who the heck is Carson Daly? |
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guangho
Joined: 19 Jan 2005
Location: a spot full of deception, stupidity, and public micturation and thus unfit for longterm residency
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Bush is not a stupid man. He is a bad man. |
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JacktheCat
Joined: 08 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: |
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A stupid President is not necessarily a bad, or ineffective, President.
Look at Ronald Reagan. Not the sharpest tool in shed, but he was a very effective President. He had clear goals and surrounded himself with smart, focused people.
President Bush on the other hand is an idiot, surround by incompetent fools, and has no clear goals or strategies. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
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Who cares? Yes, of course he is not the one making the real decisions. He is just the frontman puppet boy. So? Ever heard of fun? Look it up in your dictionary, or google it. That's right: F U N. Then slither back to your hole, you nasty party pooper, and let the happy little bunnies play! |
Bush is dumb. Bush is really dumb. And...he's fairly stupid.
Hey, that was fun. No wonder many in this forum speak of the superiority of left-wing humor. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Dumb or idiotic. History will probably not look at him that way. He is a pivotal president, like it or not. Sad, but true. |
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