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rok_the-boat
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 Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: Rough Justice, in Reverse |
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=635748
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| A military judge threw out a guilty plea by Lynndie England, a key figure in the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal ... |
Yesterday the Judge said Private England was NOT GUILTY, despite the fact that she pleaded GUILTY - now that has to be a first - I have never heard of such a thing.
And today we have:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=635756
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US Marine cleared over mosque shooting
A US Marine corporal who shot dead an apparently injured and unarmed Iraqi in a Fallujah mosque last year will not face court-martial, the Marine Corps announced today.... |
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What, I wonder, comes tomorrow? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:52 am Post subject: |
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It's perfectly legal and it does happen.
Personally, I wish they would hang that white-trash postergirl for retroactive abortion, but them's the breaks. |
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turtlepi1
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
It's perfectly legal and it does happen.
Personally, I wish they would hang that white-trash postergirl for retroactive abortion, but them's the breaks. |
um...dude...shouldn't the white-trash postergirl actually be white?
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gmat
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:27 am Post subject: |
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How white do she have to be ? 
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turtlepi1
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sarcasm missed....*doh*
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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My reading of the article says that the court entered a plea for her of not guilty, because she did not really believe herself to be guilty. She entered a plea in a plea bargain of guilty. If the judge didn't believe her plea to be credible, he had the right to reject it and try her. It looks like that is what is going to happen.
Perhaps the judge actually wants to have a fair trial and a fair outcome, and also have the evidence heard. This is far from declaring her innocent.
I think she is a scapegoat. Go after the big guys. Those two in the photo kissing would be a good place to start.
By the way, I come from what is generally labeled a "white trash" background. Being white and poor/working class is not sin. My father lives in a double wide in the piney woods of north Florida. He worked harder all of his life than any of us. So, take your labels and put them where to sun don't shine, as we white trash like to say. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| desultude wrote: |
My reading of the article says that the court entered a plea for her of not guilty, because she did not really believe herself to be guilty. She entered a plea in a plea bargain of guilty. If the judge didn't believe her plea to be credible, he had the right to reject it and try her. It looks like that is what is going to happen.
Perhaps the judge actually wants to have a fair trial and a fair outcome, and also have the evidence heard. This is far from declaring her innocent.
I think she is a scapegoat. Go after the big guys. Those two in the photo kissing would be a good place to start.
By the way, I come from what is generally labeled a "white trash" background. Being white and poor/working class is not sin. My father lives in a double wide in the piney woods of north Florida. He worked harder all of his life than any of us. So, take your labels and put them where to sun don't shine, as we white trash like to say. |
If you and I were to compare our white-trash credentials, we'd probably come out even. But the point is, Lynddie is white trash, however you cut it. White trash is how you act, not how much money you have.
But you're right that it would make it tougher to go after the big guys if Lynddie is allowed to take the fall with no trial. So this is probably a good thing, although there's obviously the risk that no one will be convicted at all. |
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rok_the-boat
Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder how these events will be interpreted in Arabic... |
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