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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Are there any pithy quotes you can provide? I don't want to register with the LA Times to read this article. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Why would anyone trust Saddam Hussein one of the great killers of the 20th century to make nice? |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Why would anyone trust Saddam Hussein one of the great killers of the 20th century to make nice? |
Yes, perhaps, but the reason given was WMD and threat to US. And none were found before or after. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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This is a very disappointing article. The headline is also misleading. There are only a few short paragraphs that even concern the headline. The rest of the article just regurgitates what we already knew about the pre-war dealings of Bush and Blair.
Here are the relevant portions of the article:
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LONDON - Reports in the British press this month based on documents indicating that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair had conditionally agreed by July 2002 to invade Iraq appear to have blown over quickly in Britain.
But in the United States, where the reports at first received scant attention, there has been growing indignation among critics of the Bush White House, who say the documents help prove that the leaders made a secret decision to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein nearly a year before launching their attack, shaped intelligence to that aim and never seriously intended to avert the war through diplomacy...
In a letter to Bush last week, 89 House Democrats expressed shock over the documents. They asked if the papers were authentic and, if so, whether they proved that the White House had agreed to invade Iraq months before seeking Congress' OK.
"If the disclosure is accurate, it raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of our own administration," the letter says.
"While the president of the United States was telling the citizens and the Congress that they had no intention to start a war with Iraq, they were working very close with Tony Blair and the British leadership at making this a foregone conclusion," the letter's chief author, Rep. John Conyers Jr. of Michigan, said Wednesday.
If the documents are real, he said, it is "a huge problem" in terms of an abuse of power. He said the White House had not yet responded to the letter.
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I think indignation would be justified, but a letter to the president that got very little attention is not much of a sign of growing anything. Even the original story that broke in Britain didn't get a lot of attention in the media here.
This article is a good illustration of why the opposition is so ineffective. The causes of the war are now the business of historians. It's time to move on and deal with the situation as it is now. We're locked in a long-term military conflict with urban terrorists that are killing dozens of people a day-and there is no end in sight. The opposition is offering no alternatives. Are there any alternatives? I think that is why they keep talking about the past--then they won't have to do any leading. |
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