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House approves stem-cell research

 
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:06 pm    Post subject: House approves stem-cell research Reply with quote

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1116999264166710.xml


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Rep. Jim Ramstad (R-Minn.) said the harvesting of stem cells for research should not be consumed by the debate over abortion. "To reduce this issue to an abortion issue is the ultimate injustice to people" suffering with diseases, he said.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a departure from my conservative leanings I am at odds with Mr Bush's position on stem cell research. Unfortunately, Bush has already signalled that he will veto this bill. In this case religious beliefs are quite clearly interfering in the passage of law.
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Alias



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised that it even passed.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alias wrote:
I'm surprised that it even passed.


Perhaps some of the legislators voting in favor were given a wake-up call by the scientific progress in stem cell and cloning research being performed in Korea and realized that we cannot afford to fall behind further, Bush and his obstinate ignorance and gut hatred of science be damned.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOOD!
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:31 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Indeed, Dogbert.

Even if he vetoes it, he can only veto American research. The research will go on.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Democrats are politically astute, they will introduce a new stem cell research bill in mid October '06 and another one in mid October '08.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The democrats should have made more political capital out of this in the last election. John Kerry did refer to it in the context of Reeves, but I thought there was a lot more mileage to be extracted from the issue. Dogbert is right, Bush's interest in science doesn't really go beyond the military variety. Fortunately, some republicans support unfettered access to all the tools necessary to carry out effective stem cell research too.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
Indeed, Dogbert.

Even if he vetoes it, he can only veto American research. The research will go on.


Not even that. It is simply a ban on federal funding. CA passed a bill last november allowing the state gov't to issue a bond for billions of dollars to fund stem cell research. They just chose the HQ (will be in SF). Unfortunately those religous idiots are sueing the state, so the funding is being delayed. Confused
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Nowhere Man wrote:
Indeed, Dogbert.

Even if he vetoes it, he can only veto American research. The research will go on.


Not even that. It is simply a ban on federal funding. CA passed a bill last november allowing the state gov't to issue a bond for billions of dollars to fund stem cell research. They just chose the HQ (will be in SF). Unfortunately those religous idiots are sueing the state, so the funding is being delayed. Confused


I voted for that.

Bush is resolutely anti-science. The man is a throwback.

In addition to his unforgivable opposition to stem-cell research, Bush has, according to columnist Thomas Friedman, cut the National Science Foundation budget by $100 million in 2005 and in 2006 proposes shrinking the Department of Energy science programs and basic and applied research in the Department of Defense.

Friedman quips that Congress caters to people who think "intelligent design" is something done by God and not by Intel. It's funny because it's true.
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