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Cabbit



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 8:59 am    Post subject: Anyone traveled to North Korea? Reply with quote

Hello
I was contemplating a trip to North Korea and I was wondering if anyone here had been there? I would love to hear stories of travels there Very Happy
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The Den



Joined: 26 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2003 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I ran across this neat travelogue by some fellows who visited North Korea in 1995. I personally find the whole country quite fascinating and would like to take a trip there. I still plan to at least visit the DMZ. Anyway here is the link.

http://www.koreanwar.org/html/nk_travelogue.html
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sparkx



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went on the DMZ tour about a month ago. Although it was facinating to see the North Korean soldiers and the small town (forgot the name) in the North almost a stone's throw away spewing pro-communist and anti-American rhetoric over its loudspeakers, the tour on the whole, left a lot to be desired. Be prepared to spend a total of an hour travelling to the DMZ, an hour on the tour itself and 2 and a half hours in the military mess hall. When I was there, we had this kid leading the tour named Officer Diicks (hehehe) who fumbled and stuttered his was through his speech and i'm sure soiled his drawers in the process....

If $$$ is absolutely no object and you can afford to waste a hell of a lot of time sitting in a cafeteria peeling paint from a table with your thumb nail --have a blast. At least i was able to make Diicks cry by my incessant name calling and mockery.
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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that there is a mountain in North Korea that some foreigners go to for hiking. Can't think of the name. Anyone help me out?
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The Den



Joined: 26 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the name of the mountain but the village near the DMZ is Panmunjon.
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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to go hiking on one of the mountains in the North. Going to do some research on this. It would be an amazing trip.
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howie2424



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it's called Mt. Geumgang or "The Diamond Mountain" and the Hyundai company offers tours for South Koreans and foreigners by cruise ship from somewhere on the Northwest coast. Probably Incheon. I visited the English version of the tour operator's website sometime ago and have lost the link but recall the cost was around 500,000 won, two day package but you have to sleep on the boat. Kim Jong Il doesn't want you wandering around at night telling his people what's happening in the rest of the world. The tours began a couple years ago but have been a total financial flop for Hyundai, so the price may be a little cheaper these days. Hope this helps.
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Hank Scorpio



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

howie2424 wrote:
I believe it's called Mt. Geumgang or "The Diamond Mountain" and the Hyundai company offers tours for South Koreans and foreigners by cruise ship from somewhere on the Northwest coast. Probably Incheon. I visited the English version of the tour operator's website sometime ago and have lost the link but recall the cost was around 500,000 won, two day package but you have to sleep on the boat. Kim Jong Il doesn't want you wandering around at night telling his people what's happening in the rest of the world. The tours began a couple years ago but have been a total financial flop for Hyundai, so the price may be a little cheaper these days. Hope this helps.


I would advise anyone thinking about doing this that some of that money probably goes into North Korea's coffers. Sure it'd be a fun trip, but it'd also be like helping to support the Third Reich. There are better places you can spend your vacation dollar.
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Jasmine



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 11:13 pm    Post subject: :o) Reply with quote

try this site...

www.1stopkorea.com and click on Journey to Kimland.

This is the best article I have found on what it's like to go to North Korea as a tourist. Wink
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Cabbit



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your advice Very Happy
I would like to visit North Korea (not just the DMZ). It would be a fascinating experience I think.
Thanks again for the links and hints Very Happy
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:27 am    Post subject: visiting North Korea Reply with quote

Believe it or not, I thought about this at one point.

But I wont, on many grounds.

I shudder to say it, but I agree with Hank Scorpio. Most of the money you spend in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea would go to weapons and food for those who need it least (the top brass).

Also from what I have read, those that go to N.K. end up being followed and not allowed to do anything off of their official travel plan (written by the hosts, not you).
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Len8



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:56 am    Post subject: North Korea Reply with quote

They are looking for English teachers in North Korea, but you have to come in through China. I haven't taken the cruise to Mt Kumgan, but I have met fellow expatriots who have, and they thoroughly enjoyed it Apparently North Korea has the more scenic part of the mountain range. Sockcho in the south is only a small part of the Kumgangs.
I saw a series of videos at my university of a KBS broadcasting tour that was done several years ago in North Korea, and parts of North Korea look quite beautiful. Poynyang is right on a river, and there appears to be a running track on both sides of it. The river wasn't barren on both sides like the gang river in Seoul. There were big beautiful trees everywhere on both sides. Can you imagine what would happen to Ponyang if Samsung, or Hyundai got in there. It would become another dump like Seoul; overpopulated with frigging highrises everywhere.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: DC area

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: North Korea Reply with quote

Len8 wrote:
Can you imagine what would happen to Ponyang if Samsung, or Hyundai got in there. It would become another dump like Seoul; overpopulated with frigging highrises everywhere.


From the pics. i've seen, I'd agree with the Great Wall: Pyongyang is already filled with high rise apartment buildings. What I want to know is what the rest of North korea looks like. Since NK has half the population of South Korea, I am guessing there is a lot more empty, uninhabited areas. It would be nice visiting a less-crowded Korea.

On the other hand, I can't imagine visiting the country while Kim Jong-Il is in power. I would hate to do anything that would hand over even a little hard currency to that despot.
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richinkorea



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm waiting for reunification, then travel the whole country.

The tour sounds too restricted to me.

Should be soon.
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Len8



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:40 am    Post subject: Anyone traveled to North Korea Reply with quote

I was referring to the many beautiful trees that lined the river that runs through Pyonggang. I would hate to see them removed, but you never know with the South Korean conglomerates. The city from what I have seen ,and heard is quite beautiful. The people there are fined heavily for littering. If unification does come they ought to put a wire fence around the city prohibiting South Koreans from entering it, because there would then be nothing but rubbish and empty ramyon boxes all over the place. When they had the first tour to the Kumgang Mountains the South korean tourists had no compunction about pouring their discarded noodles on the ground. They were pulled up on it by the North Koreans quite promptly. Better still they could give the disbandfed Korean army sticks to cane people the way the do in Singapore should there be any littering. Who knows such an effect might trickle down to the rest of Korea and we just might get a much cleaner Country.
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