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camaroclow
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Pension contributions : Low Down |
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So I've heard conflicting stories about this subject. Direct from the site http://www.nps.or.kr/ under q and a it states that it is to be 4.5% by both you and your employer. It was explained by my VP yesterday that it is based on a percentage of your income. I am only paying about 45000 won a month which is about 2% of my 2.1 mill or 4.5 % of 1 mill. Does this make sense to anyone? Any links to info that would clairfy my case would be greatly appreciated so I can present my case in the near future to the VP. Thanks. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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It should be about 9% total. Half by you, half by your employer. You should be paying almost 100,000 a month. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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that's right mon...your pension should be around 95,000-100,000 won a month And that's only your end...
Are you sure 45,000 is your pension? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that the OP's employer is reporting the wages at half the actual amount. If the full taxes are being deducted, care to guess where the excess money ends up? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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The less you're paying the less your boss is and you're losing $ in the long run and he is saving. Sounds like he's reporting your salary as half of what you're making. Probably getting full dollar taxes and pay on half as well if he's even paying. I'd contact the pension office and tax office and notify them about this. seems to be an error on what you are earning and what's being reported. your boss will be glad you fixed the problem for him.
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
Is this at a public school or hagwon? |
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camaroclow
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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This is a hagwon. Honestly, they are great employers in every aspect so I wouldn't think that they are trying to screw me (but I do realize what country I am working in). So do you think the best bet would be to simply show them the site and ask for a full explanation? Also, to clarify, it is supposed to be 4.5% of the full 2.1 million, not 4.5% of a percentage of that. I read some other posts and info online that entertained the idea of we get 30% tax relief or something like that so it is not a 4.5% of the full salary. (sorry, that is a bit vague). Thanks. |
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vdowd
Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Location: Iksan
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: Lower Pension |
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It is possible that they are under reported your income BUT I have just learned something (after 6 years here) about which income is reported.
The income required to be reported to NP and Medical is only the taxable portion of your income (or the prior year). That is your income less the 30% tax exempt portion according to Korean Tax services. It is buried in the Tax law.
So your employer only needs to claim your taxable income. Ex. Your income was 2.1M last year = 70% is taxable = so 1.47M is taxable = your 4.5% portion is 66,150 won = matched by employer 66,150 = total per month (9%) = 132,300 won. Does not matter hat you are know making 2.5M (unless it is your first year).
Many employers don't know this - also many employees only stay for 1 year and do not file taxes - so use 9%. Unfortunately, my employer does know this - less for me - and it sound like your employer may know it too - or is truly under reporting you.
Hope this helps.
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camaroclow
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the help. I didnt want to go into battle knowing the wrong information. They are pretty sorted out so I take it they know what the deal is. I am only paying 45000 compared to 66500 what I should be paying so I will bring this to their attention as that turns out to be about 500000 by the end of year. Thanks again. |
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buster brown
Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Camaro, if I were in your shoes, I would go in and discuss the difference with them, but I'd never mention that 30% deduction. Any pension that you pay is just money in the bank...what benefits you is that your employer pays a little more, thus the amount you receive back from pension will be higher.
You say, "They are great employers in every aspect so I wouldn't think that they are trying to screw me." We usually refer to that as 'famous last words.' I'll be interested to hear how calmly they receive your helpful advice and what repercussions you'll have to deal with. Good luck. |
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esetters21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Lower Pension |
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vdowd wrote: |
It is possible that they are under reported your income BUT I have just learned something (after 6 years here) about which income is reported.
The income required to be reported to NP and Medical is only the taxable portion of your income (or the prior year). That is your income less the 30% tax exempt portion according to Korean Tax services. It is buried in the Tax law.
So your employer only needs to claim your taxable income. Ex. Your income was 2.1M last year = 70% is taxable = so 1.47M is taxable = your 4.5% portion is 66,150 won = matched by employer 66,150 = total per month (9%) = 132,300 won. Does not matter hat you are know making 2.5M (unless it is your first year).
Many employers don't know this - also many employees only stay for 1 year and do not file taxes - so use 9%. Unfortunately, my employer does know this - less for me - and it sound like your employer may know it too - or is truly under reporting you.
Hope this helps.
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That seems to be spot on based upon what has been payed towards my pension for the last 23 months. It does seem that my school is only paying on what would be a taxable income of 70% of my salary. Hmmm...anyway thanks for giving that info. I'm more informed because of it. |
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xeno439
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: |
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CentralCali wrote: |
I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that the OP's employer is reporting the wages at half the actual amount. If the full taxes are being deducted, care to guess where the excess money ends up? |
You hit the nail on the head. That is common practice for most hagwon owners. I know for a fact this is happening at my hagwon. The owner has made no bones about telling us this either. |
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