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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Being vegetarian is a good idea no doubt...
But we are carnivores! Just like other animals out there. Sure we have the power to change and become non meat eaters but how do we change all the carnivores in the world today that need to feed off other animals to survive?
Now, OF COURSE cruelty to animals for pleasure and sport should be ILLEGAL! That�s a different story in my book...
Killing elephants for their tasks, killing cats for their fur etc duck shooting, rabbit shooting, tiger hunting etc...
But humans eating a few selected animals are no different to the lion eating the zebra! Etc... What�s the difference one zebra dies compared to 100.000 zebras? A lion must eat! It�s cruel to watch a lion eat a baby Gisele but hey what can we do?
Kill every Carnivore on the planet to stop animals from dying?
but hey, |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think a good dish for Vegetarians (maybe Vegans) is 호박닙 쌈.
Its pumpkin leave wraps.
Basically, its a thick daengjang sauce that you mix put ontop of rice, wrap it in steamed Pumpkin lettuce and shove it in your mouth. You can put other thigns in the daengjang sauce like tofu, beans, etc...
Tastes really good.
The Korean recipe usually calls for pork/ seafood/ or some other meat. You can just omit those ingredients. It shouldn't affect the flavor. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Most of us were born into families that trained/conditioned us to eat meat (along with vegetables, milk, etc.) but that doesn't necessarily make it a good diet for progressive, civilized humans.
In nature, one species is food for another, and some animals are carnivores while others are vegetarians.
Animals automatically follow laws of nature and don't incur any karmic reactions for killing other animals.
Humans are distinguished from animals by our more highly developed consciousness, that can try to understand laws of nature and philosophically inquire about higher truth..
Ethically, it's better for humans to minimize violence and suffering that we inflict on other living beings.
Since it's pretty clear that humans can maintain good health and strength with a vegetarian diet, there is usually no necessity to brutally kill and eat animals.
Lower species have less developed consciousness, so it's obviously less violent to kill a head of lettuce than to chop a cow's head off.
I think that most die-hard meat-eaters are habituated to the stimulating taste of animal blood, and they have the mistaken idea that vegetarian food can't satisfy their palate.
Of course, it's more difficult for strict vegans to enjoy a full range of tastes, but some simulated meats - like soy steaks made by the Korean company Vegefood - have very good texture and flavor. And the soy ice cream you can get at "Purely Decadent" rivals the real thing (at least taste-wise).
Lacto-vegetarians (like myself) can enjoy pizza - with rennetless cheese - and experience the taste of foods cooked in ghee (clarified butter) which has the same stimulating taste as red meat but can be obtained with minimal violence.
Because of widespread abuses (and cow-killing) in the dairy industry, many vegans avoid all dairy products on ethical grounds. I share their concerns, but I philosophically disagree when they assert that it's unnatural for humans to drink cows milk (based on my understanding of Vedic culture...)
Anyway, I like to cook, and I'll bring some vegan stuff (along with veggie cheeseburgers) to the Yonsan Park veggie club gathering Saturday (5pm). As club president, "Kermo", indicated both vegetarians and non-vegetarians interested in trying something different are welcome.
PM "Kermo" to get on the email list ...
The Seoul Veggie Club group can be found on facebook and at the following sites:
http://seoulveggieclub.wordpress.com/
http://seoulveggieclub.proboards104.com/index.cgi |
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potin14p
Joined: 04 May 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:05 am Post subject: |
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bump
remember, picnic tomorrow late afternoon/evening at Ichon Park. all the details are one page back.
Go chickpea burgers!! |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's Yonsan Park in Ichon at 5pm.
Take light-blue line 4 to Ichon Station (430), exit 2 - it's next to the National Museum of Korea... walk to the right around the "reflecting pond." Keep going toward the "Reflecting Pond Cafe" until you see a small path veering off to the right, toward a grove with two ancient Buddha statues... |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Rteacher wrote: |
Yeah, it's Yonsan Park in Ichon at 5pm.
Take light-blue line 4 to Ichon Station (430), exit 2 - it's next to the National Museum of Korea... walk to the right around the "reflecting pond." Keep going toward the "Reflecting Pond Cafe" until you see a small path veering off to the right, toward a grove with two ancient Buddha statues... |
Picnic has been rained out!
Save those burgers for the October 5th potluck with Cheryl's yoga club, if possible! |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure I can make it this Sunday, but it seems like an interesting event:
Sunday Oct. 5th 6:30pm
All 4 All Yoga and Dance academy, Sillim Dong, Seoul.
Directions:
Sillim Station (Line 2, Green) Exit 2.
Walk straight out exit 2 to the first street with a light, about 200m, just after the adidas store. Turn left and walk up the street past Pizza Hut.
All 4 All is in the building on the corner (enter around the corner from the super market). All 4 All is on the 6th floor, walk down the hall to the right when you exit the elevator.
Just a note...no alcohol because it is a business. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: |
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President (for life...) "Kermo" has announced the next veggie club event for this Saturday, November 8, and it's a good one -
Everest Indian Restaurant (which I've been trying to locate for years...)
Anyway, it's this Saturday at 6pm for anyone (even nonvegetarians) willing to select from the vegetarian menu only.
Please PM "kermo" or at least post here if you'd like to attend.
Here are the directions for getting there:
At Dongdaemun Station (line 1, exit 3.) Go up the stairs, take the first little alley on your left, just past the bank. There's a pharmacy on the corner, then take the first side alley on your right. It's on the second floor
Here's a link for the restaurant's website - the "English" menu option doesn't work, but the "Korean" menu also has English (so click on that)
http://www.everestfood.com/ |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the Seoul Veggie club is still going (with more members than ever) and "Kermo" is still the President (but she hardly posts here anymore...)
The "Seoul Veggie club" facebook site has been the main focus for organizing gatherings.
Anyway, I recently discovered the best vegetarian buffet in Korea - it's located at Achasan station (Purple line 5) and it's right near exit one. It's reportedly 100%vegan - including a variety of cakes and drinks - and costs 15,000 won. (Children's Grand Park is across the street...) |
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harlowethrombey
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I refuse to eat anything that didnt scream in terror when faced with its own death. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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We've generally been conditioned to just think of meat as some nicely packaged thing that comes from the supermarket rather than as sliced-up dead bodies of sentient beings who desired to enjoy life (but ended up being tortured and slaughtered by merciless terrorists who lust after mangled flesh and blood.)
The real scream is that most "meat-lovers" consider themselves civilized! |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:18 am Post subject: |
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The Seoul Veggie Club has two events scheduled for this weekend.
On Saturday, May 2 members interested in hiking up (and down) Achasan Mountain will meet at Achasan Station (line 5) exit 3 at 4pm.
After the hike - whether or not that's washed-out by rain - members (and anyone else interested in joining) will meet at "Go5" (O Seh gae hyang) Vegetarian Buffet at around 6:30pm. It's located right in front of exit 1 of Achasan Station.
On Sunday, May 3, the SVC will be gathering for a "Veggie Pot-luck" picnic in Yongsan Park at 2pm.
Here are directions for getting there (given by "kermo" who goes by a different alias as club president)
Go out Ichon Station exit 2 (#4 line--light blue), go straight (across the intersection) toward the museum. There's a Reflecting Pond. Follow the signs toward the "Reflecting Pond Cafe" until you see a little stone path leading to the right.
We'll be in a clearing, near the Buddha statues, getting our food on.
People are requested to bring some vegetarian or vegan items to share.
More info can be found at the Seoul Veggie Club site on facebook. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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I've heard from "kermo" that those who may find it difficult to bring a vegetarian food item may give some donation instead (like 10,000 won) which would be donated in turn to one of the animal rescue groups in Korea. |
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summer33ny
Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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itaewonguy wrote: |
Being vegetarian is a good idea no doubt...
But we are carnivores! Just like other animals out there. Sure we have the power to change and become non meat eaters but how do we change all the carnivores in the world today that need to feed off other animals to survive?
Now, OF COURSE cruelty to animals for pleasure and sport should be ILLEGAL! That�s a different story in my book...
Killing elephants for their tasks, killing cats for their fur etc duck shooting, rabbit shooting, tiger hunting etc...
But humans eating a few selected animals are no different to the lion eating the zebra! Etc... What�s the difference one zebra dies compared to 100.000 zebras? A lion must eat! It�s cruel to watch a lion eat a baby Gisele but hey what can we do?
Kill every Carnivore on the planet to stop animals from dying?
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It is incorrect to say that eating meat is as natural for humans as a lion killing a zebra. we are not carnivores; We are omviores. We can eat and digest meat, but we can also easily (and more healthily) live without it.
Look at all the problems our "carnivorous" like-diet has casued.... The UN says animals raised for human consumption is the leading cause of global warming. And swine flu?
Just natural?... I don't think so... |
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