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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Oh, and about the other Yangpa, that is the original Yangpa that was created by another poster on this board without any involvement from me (i'd say who made it but he hasn't IDed himself and after I've ruined his creation's good name maybe he doesn't want to). I took the idea from him. That blog has a lot of funny stories and I enjoyed it but after a while the posts dried up so I just took the name and starting making stories myself. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Even if they knew the site was satirical, it would be possible for them to interpret the Lee Jun-ki article this way: While he said all that sh!t about the Phillipines, he looks like sh!t himself in the picture. Or something like that. Amazing how those guys found that site on the corner. Well, this whole thing is not very funny to me. billybrobby, I hope you just don't take it down as if it was not there. That will just leave it even more unsolved. I dunno... You are heartless.  |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
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| If there's a grain of truth in this article, it goes to the heart of why Koreans get no respect in PI, or for that matter, anywhere on the planet on which they set foot. While it's true that travelers from any country tend to not well reflect the character of the nation, Koreans seem to take it to an extreme degree (I speak of most, not all). With that in mind, the arrogance and superiority complex that they display in countries whose GDP is lower than theirs endears them to no one. Perhaps this will change in the next generation, and I see some signs of that. Unfortunately, the present generation appears to be ignorant and obtuse in international situations, and it reflects upom then all. Certainly they should not be permitted to fly on airlines other than their own until they learn some civility. |
oh, i just give up. |
Nono. I think there is the potential for a good deal of constructive dialog here. |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
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| If there's a grain of truth in this article, it goes to the heart of why Koreans get no respect in PI, or for that matter, anywhere on the planet on which they set foot. While it's true that travelers from any country tend to not well reflect the character of the nation, Koreans seem to take it to an extreme degree (I speak of most, not all). With that in mind, the arrogance and superiority complex that they display in countries whose GDP is lower than theirs endears them to no one. Perhaps this will change in the next generation, and I see some signs of that. Unfortunately, the present generation appears to be ignorant and obtuse in international situations, and it reflects upom then all. Certainly they should not be permitted to fly on airlines other than their own until they learn some civility. |
oh, i just give up. |
And thanks for the answer about the 2 Yangpas. |
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candide
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you think the Flippers will be testing a nuke shortly? |
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rabbitsaregood
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
. I'm disappointed that it's gotten more attention than what I think is better material. And I really don't like all the racist comments. I'm not sure what I should do with it. Pull it down? Clean up the comments?
People have to think for themselves. |
Pull it with an explanation and an apology. It's really quite offensive to a lot of people regardless of your intentions or how you think it should be read. People will read it how they see fit and your explanation that people have to think for themselves is pretty scant.
It's racist, spiteful and highly libellous. I mean, I don't know what the Korean situation is, but in Britain this is a criminal offence, with possible prison sentence.
I like the Yangpa, but this article is nasty and irresponsible. To be honest, if I was Lee Jun Ki i'd sue you / charge you. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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It's not hard to tell who has read the real Onion and who hasn't in this thread.
This might the best part of the whole experience. |
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candide
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| rabbitsaregood wrote: |
| billybrobby wrote: |
. I'm disappointed that it's gotten more attention than what I think is better material. And I really don't like all the racist comments. I'm not sure what I should do with it. Pull it down? Clean up the comments?
People have to think for themselves. |
Pull it with an explanation and an apology. It's really quite offensive to a lot of people regardless of your intentions or how you think it should be read. People will read it how they see fit and your explanation that people have to think for themselves is pretty scant.
It's racist, spiteful and highly libellous. I mean, I don't know what the Korean situation is, but in Britain this is a criminal offence, with possible prison sentence.
I like the Yangpa, but this article is nasty and irresponsible. To be honest, if I was Lee Jun Ki i'd sue you / charge you. |
This is not Britain. In Korea, articles like this are encouraged and supported in the newspapers here. |
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rabbitsaregood
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="candideThis is not Britain. In Korea, articles like this are encouraged and supported in the newspapers here.[/quote]
Yeah, appreciated (as I said) but it's still nasty. I'm not some kind of amazingly sensible person but convincing people that someone is a racist is not my idea of a hilarious practical joke.
Is there really no libel law in Korea? Could the Herald or someone really write this and get away with it? It's an open and shut case. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Is there really no libel law in Korea? Could the Herald or someone really write this and get away with it? It's an open and shut case. |
Here's the real The Onion getting away with depicting Eminem as a homophob, and possibly homosexuals as the source of AIDS - if some ESL students want to confuse it's intent.
Eminem Releases Single About Hugging Elton John At Grammys Then Ripping His Dick Off With Pliers
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31818
Why isn't Eminem, Elton John, Britney Spears and/or Christina A. suing for libel? Oh, that's right, only ESL students and complete idiots don't realise it's a joke. Luckily neither of these groups of people are capable of hiring a competent lawyer. Stupid teenagers. |
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rabbitsaregood
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| babtangee wrote: |
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Is there really no libel law in Korea? Could the Herald or someone really write this and get away with it? It's an open and shut case. |
Here's the real The Onion getting away with depicting Eminem as a homophob, and possibly homosexuals as the source of AIDS - if some ESL students want to confuse it's intent.
Eminem Releases Single About Hugging Elton John At Grammys Then Ripping His Dick Off With Pliers
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31818
Why isn't Eminem, Elton John, Britney Spears and/or Christina A. suing for libel? Oh, that's right, only ESL students and complete idiots don't realise it's a joke. Luckily neither of these groups of people are capable of hiring a competent lawyer. Stupid teenagers. |
DENG!!
it's cos it's not defamatory to any of those people. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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DENG!!
it's cos it's not defamatory to any of those people. |
Claiming that Eminem wrote this is not defamatory?
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| "I was at the Grammys and Elton John gave me a hug / So I got out my pliers and ripped his little faggot dick off with a tug / Shoved it down the throats of Britney, then Christina A. / Probably gave both of the bitches AIDS." |
If the Yangpa article is defamatory, why isn't that?
You are right, of course. It's not defamatory. Because the writers never intended for the reader to believe it were true.
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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The first comment was by Dear Editor Billy B.
The second comment said ...
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| I just pray none of our countrymen will see this entry and take is as factual ... |
This was followed by a further ninety-three (93) comments. |
As of this writing, there are now 136 comments. The site's on fire!
I think these ones may help to explain the hornet's nest that's been stirred up:
| SIKYA wrote: |
October 14th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
i’ve work in south korea for 2 years ... |
| SIKYA wrote: |
October 14th, 2006 at 7:58 pm
no korean will treat a filipino as you would expect them.
they are all liars and [email protected]
i know, ive been there. in sangwangsimni. we always get a critism from them, that we are monkeys because we have lots of bananas.* |
* As you might know, in Korea, calling someone a "monkey" is a very serious insult.
Personally, despite finding a lot of Billybrobby's posts and blog entries hilarious, I didn't think this one was so funny. I think it would have been better to go with something like:
Lee Jung-ki took a break from the swirling rumours of his personal bankruptcy to hold a surprise press conference to thank his many Filipina fans.
"I really appreciate your e-mailing me your love and support. Thank you so very much."
Then, as he turned to leave, he added, "And if you happen to have a credit card, send me your number. I'd appreciate that, too."
With that, he gave his breathless fans a wink that left them swooning.
Oh, well. Too late now. Besides, what if some of these gullible girls started actually sending their credit card numbers to the Yangpa? 
I'm sure Dear Editor Billy B. would promptly clear things out -I mean, up! |
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JJK1
Joined: 22 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter if the article is fake or not, how are random people stumbling on to the article supposed to realize its fake? Its just making Koreans in general look bad and bringing out a lot of hostility between both sides.
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idealjetsam Says:
October 14th, 2006 at 9:27 pm
Word has even reached NYC. The Filipino students at NYU, The New School, Columbia, Hunter, and Pace universities are holding a forum on how to contain the threat called “Lee, Jun-Gi, Hallyu and You: Diverse Perspectives on Gender Confusion, Cultural Imperialism, the Inner City and Globalization in Feminist Meta-Discourse.” |
I think you should atleast write at the end of the article that its not true so these morons can calm down |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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The thing is, even if they realized the article was not factual, they'd still think the author is a bigotted Korean. Extreme hostility's going on on the comment section. Apparently not pleasant for everyone, no matter what the intention was. Author, it's all good to have fun, but next time I think it will be better trying not to invoke this kind of inter-ethnicity flames... Seems like more people than you expected are checking it out.. 
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