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280,000 won electric bill - is this normal?
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juliebaas



Joined: 19 Aug 2006
Location: Somewhere near Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: 280,000 won electric bill - is this normal? Reply with quote

When we first got here our bill was 180,000 won which we thought was high, but it was summer and we were using the air conditioning, but each month since it has gone up - and we are not using the air conditioning or heater. It is a 650 sq foot studio apartment, and I am getting increasingly frustrated by the high bill, it makes it hard to save money when your electric bill is almost as much as rent.

We have mentioned it to our director, but she says most of it is maintaince for the apartment and we are commerical building with a few apartments so they can charge more. I am thinking of asking her to subdize the high cost?

Is it normal to have such a high bill and do we have a right to request help to pay it from our director?
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were you I'd be looking for a second job to cover utility bills. Shocked

Are you looking at the actual bill from the utility company or bill from your hagwon master? If the bill is from your hagwon master, you should ask her to break it down and show you the actual utility bills.
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Peeping Tom



Joined: 15 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChuckECheese wrote:
If I were you I'd be looking for a second job to cover utility bills. Shocked

Are you looking at the actual bill from the utility company or bill from your hagwon master? If the bill is from your hagwon master, you should ask her to break it down and show you the actual utility bills.


It does seem a bit pricey if it's just electricity, but it might be accurate if it's the sum of numerous bills.

For example:
My gas bill in winter can reach 100,000 or more.
My electricity bill is lower, but when I used an air conditioner it could be quite expensive (50,000 or more). If you have a water dispenser it can significantly raise your electricity bill.
Many apartment complexes have monthly fees for the old man who watches over the apartment and for general maintenance. The fee is probably 50,000-100,000. Add another 10,000/month for water.
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blynch



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I were you I'd be looking for a second job to cover utility bills


new hooter's in seoul is now hiring...
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

280,000 is high, but utilities in korea can be insane. i've never really figured out the rhyme or reason to it. in my first apartment, i was paying 20 bucks a month. in the secon, 200. in my third, which is like twice as big as the second, i'm paying 200 again. it's terrible though, feels like a total waste.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

If that is just electricity, you are being fleeced.

650 sq feet, I have no idea how big that is. Basically, it'd have to be big, and you'd have to be leaving on many lights and a fat ass computer 24/7 to warrant that bill. My guess is that your neighbours are wired into your place and you are paying for a few of your neighbours too.

What I would do is check the electric bills when they next come in the mail. Check your neighbours.

I live in a 16 pyeong place and we used to pay 30,000 or more on a bad month. Maybe 40 if we went crazy.

The funny thing is, if I am right, you could refuse to pay your bill and then watch half of your building get the power cut off.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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she says most of it is maintaince for the apartment


That is way too high. Why are you paying for the maintenance? Is that in your contract? I have averaged about 30,000 per month for electric at several places in the past 3 years. Do you have a fish tank? Unplug things before you go out. Point of being here is to safe money...not spend it so hagwon owner can get rich. See about getting your own apartment. Shocked
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i pay about 250.000 won for "Utilities", this includes gas, water, electricity, guards, parking lot, elevator, maintenance, anythibg you can think of.

So if you are paying that much just for electricity, i wonder how many Kimchi fridges you are having in the basement Smile.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChuckECheese wrote:
If I were you I'd be looking for a second job to cover utility bills. :shock:

Are you looking at the actual bill from the utility company or bill from your hagwon master? If the bill is from your hagwon master, you should ask her to break it down and show you the actual utility bills.


Word.
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mytime



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the op....

It might be that you are paying the average of the apt building you're in and not what you actually use

Thats what happened to me 2 years ago
I lived in a big apt (too big for one guy) and my bills were 200 000 a month even though I wasnt home much

One month I went on ten days vacation and switched off everything and when I got that month's bill it was the same as always

Turned out they were just taking the whole building's bill and divided it by number of apartments....so I was paying same as families

Not sure what you can do....i threatened to quit unless my director moved me
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My total bills for a month is 50 -60,000 won. This includes my phone and internet! Electricity is about 6000 per mo.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just adding support to the previous posters.
That's way too high. My bill, for a 500 sq foot apartment is less than 20,000. I run the tv, lights and computer every moment I'm here. I use my microwave several times a day.
Somethings not right. Let us know what the situation turned out to be....if you do get it sorted. If you can't get it sorted, I think I would ask to be moved to another apartment.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP- If the hogwan owner/director took that out of your check, then you are being cheated. Keep your pay stubs in a safe place, (and make copies), because you'll probably have a strong case at the Labor Board.
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Bukowski



Joined: 29 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much paranoia here.

What you claim to just be your electric bill, it not your electric bill. It is apartment fees, such as maintenance, water, electric, TV, possibly internet, possibly gas included. Your employer is not fleecing you. Simply take your stub to a Korean friend and have them tell you what each charges means. More than likely, 100,000~150,000 is pure maintenance fees and the rest is from your utilities.

Relax. Let us know the what you find out.

AC
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mytime wrote:
It might be that you are paying the average of the apt building you're in and not what you actually use


I have the same deal in my office-tel. It sucks.

I do find that it costs more in Seoul. In Cheonan I was paying less than half of what I'm paying now. Then again, I didn't have these huge windows in Cheonan sucking the heat out, either.

Just remember that if you do move, the cheaper the place, the shittier it is.
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