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Walter Mitty
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Tokyo! ^.^
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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makushi wrote: |
So as this act supposedly occured off-duty, SOFA will not be involved, and the Korean authorities will be in charge of the prosecution...correct? |
It's tough to say at this stage. If he'd killed a Korean, the Korean courts would want his hide. As his wife was American, they'll probably let the Army court martial him. The UCMJ applies to all service members on- and off-duty. If the Army takes control of the murder charge, what are the Koreans going to charge him with - littering? |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Middle Land
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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As for my country in South Africa, abolishing the death penalty was the worst thing they could have done, now crime is much more rampant. |
And as for the United States, which has the death penalty, crime is also very high.
What's your point? |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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This is a ugly story, but a lot of posters are feeling relief because of her race. If she was Korean, there would mostly likely be candle light rallies, but, and this is distrubing, because she isn't Korean, there is no need for a call to come together. Koreans are seeing this in terms of race, and not in terms of life. Sad. And basically this lets us all remember where we sit in the Korean mind. |
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ratslash
Joined: 08 May 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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in yesterdays korean herald. |
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billbile
Joined: 10 Apr 2003
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Giant, SK has the death penalty in the law but the president can veto it. It is the policy of the current party in govt to veto the death penalty automatically in every case.
So I guess it depends which party is in power whether there's a death penalty or not. Same as New Zealand from the 40s to the 60s. We were also in the weird situation of criminals under the conservative party hanging and running free under the more liberal. |
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Walter Mitty
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Location: Tokyo! ^.^
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:51 am Post subject: |
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weatherman wrote: |
This is a ugly story, but a lot of posters are feeling relief because of her race. If she was Korean, there would mostly likely be candle light rallies, but, and this is distrubing, because she isn't Korean, there is no need for a call to come together. Koreans are seeing this in terms of race, and not in terms of life. Sad. And basically this lets us all remember where we sit in the Korean mind. |
Since it happened in Korea, it is about race. Accept it. Had the two girls last year been American military dependants, would there have been vigils and protests? Nope! |
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Giant
Joined: 14 May 2003 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Giant wrote:
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As for my country in South Africa, abolishing the death penalty was the worst thing they could have done, now crime is much more rampant. |
And as for the United States, which has the death penalty, crime is also very high.
What's your point? |
I now understand where your nick comes from, if you read my post, you will note what I said, which the jist was that crime took a sharp rise when they abolished the act.
What I am saying is that if they did abolish the act in the US, crime would increase a lot. |
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canuckistan Mod Team
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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That's one hell of a way to end a relationship huh? |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Giant wrote: |
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I now understand where your nick comes from, if you read my post, you will note what I said, which the jist was that crime took a sharp rise when they abolished the act.
What I am saying is that if they did abolish the act in the US, crime would increase a lot. |
It's a common claim, but not true. |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2003 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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The problem in the US is that death row inmates stay so darn long on death row. The chances that you'll be executed for a crime in the US is actually lower than you think considering appeals and stays of execution.
In Singapore, possession of a certain amount of narcotics means an automatic death penalty. And the authorities DO put such criminals to sleep. In other words, the certainty of the punishment has a lot to do with lowering crime. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 9:05 am Post subject: |
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The certainty of getting caught has more influence than the punishment. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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canuckistan wrote: |
That's one hell of a way to end a relationship huh? |
June 12, 1994 all over again. |
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