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[k.m.m]

[Anuradha Chepur]

[beancurdturtle]

[Anuradha Chepur]

Accepted.

[Anuradha Chepur]

[Anuradha Chepur]

[beancurdturtle]

[k.m.m]

Thanks for your comments, Anuradha Chepur:

I disagree with your assumptions about brainwashing for many different reasons:
1- In our days and in many societies , and in open air ,channels ,satellites ,internets,mobiles,etc.. Brainwash and closing eyes is not possible, means the sun can not be hide by finger.
2- The Democracy in the west is one of the reason makes a huge industry and high technology , no one can say it is bad or it is not good.
3- In my believe , the democracy is not a recipe or menu can be send or delivered(Iraq case) , I think it is education first , respecting the roles second ..it is cultural accumulation and progress.
3- From history we learned that, wars never deliver democracy, wars deliver only hate, death and disasters.
4- Today in Iraq and tomorrow where? How many people are paying the cost?
Back to the third world and even the second, the democracy which we see is not actual, it is faked, and elections in many countries are
forgery.
4- Islam as a religion and Moslems unfortunately became a good target for some reasons we dont know, the aim is to show Islam is bad religion and Muslims are terrorists ,this became became the habit of many sick people, we can see insolence in some air ports ,pointing the finger of guilty before talking and investigation.
So when the dog of your neighbor try to attack you, you don�t have to kill or attack your neighbor "9/11 case"
5- As far as our GCC system go , we are happy ,our governments are good , the people are getting what they want, travel every where , no dictatorship , no taxes, good salary, even foreigners are getting good salary, no discrimination between workers as religion point of you ..Example here in my office, we have many Christians , Hinduism, and Muslim from India all treated same and get salary as hard as they work " some of them more than Saudi salary ".

kmm

[Anuradha Chepur]

I am not saying that democracy is flawless, probably a better evil.
My son's friend, a muslim boy from Oman, says that they can't access google there. He feels somewhat emancipated here.

My beef is that somehow, these terrorist outfits in the dictatorship countries want to disupt the popular/powerful democracies.
Their's is not the 'live and let live policy'.

Another problem is that if a muslim is involved in something, then people
will take it as an attack on Islam. For example, many hindu cricket players were accused of match-fixing, and along with them, Md. Azharuddin was also accused. But Azhar played the religion card and said he was being targeted because he is a muslim. He forgot that he was made the captain of the Indian team , though he was a muslim.

[Anuradha Chepur]

[beancurdturtle]

[k.m.m]

quote="Anuradha Chepur"]I am not saying that democracy is flawless, probably a better evil.
<<<[/b] yes , if and only if the real democracy.

My son's friend, a muslim boy from Oman, says that they can't access google there. He feels somewhat emancipated here.
<<<where ! In Oman, I don't know that, may be some connection problem . Yes some sex sites are blocked in most of GCC may be except Dubai: wink: I was in Salalah this summer, one thousand k.m from Dubai, internet network is ok Google is working . http://www.google.co.uk/ and Google Arabic is also ok .. http://www.arabo.com/home.html

My beef is that somehow, these terrorist outfits in the dictatorship countries want to disupt the popular/powerful democracies.
Their's is not the 'live and let live policy'.
<<< Also some of the terrorists" in my believe" are unfortunately living and staying in the west "Europe" , they take advantages of low and democracy to distribute their hates and bad thinking among their society example :this man http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3752517.stm , In London works as a nightclub bouncer, married a British woman�.

Another problem is that if a muslim is involved in something, then people
will take it as an attack on Islam. For example, many hindu cricket players were accused of match-fixing, and along with them, Md. Azharuddin was also accused. But Azhar played the religion card and said he was being targeted because he is a muslim. He forgot that he was made the captain of the Indian team , though he was a muslim.
<<<my point is general , of course there are many cases and bad people take a advantage of that , but generally , unfortunately we became good target for unknown reason " .

[Bob S.]

[k.m.m]

Wafa bin Laden is a good singer, she is US citizen.Very nice and sexy.
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002157024

It is true that Saudi bin laden family is a big and rich family, but it is not fare to tell that all of them are bad because of one individual criminal.
The Bin Laden family disowned Osama after he was stripped of his Saudi citizenship in 1994 for suspected terrorist activities and criticism of the Al Saud ruling family.
Also it is true that Bin laden family has a big company in construction business."Saudi Bin laden Group. "
As far I know,Kualalambur international air port in Malaysia was constructed by the SBG. , it is nice air port exept its international terminals are far awy from the arraival gates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Binladin_Group

[Anuradha Chepur]