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Jerry Chen



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Need help from English native speakers Reply with quote

Hello,

Are the following sentences all acceptable? Where should �by+object� be put in a sentence?
My purse was stolen by a bad guy on the train this morning.
My purse was stolen on the train by a bad guy this morning.
My purse was stolen on the train this morning by a bad guy.

Thanks for your help!
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Tao



Joined: 26 Oct 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prefer # 1 but I'm not familiar with rules that dictate the order of who/how, where, or when. I would probably say "My purse was stolen this morning by a bad guy on the train" keeping the adverb phrase "this morning with the verb followed by the other adverbial phrases that begin with a preposition. Otherwise, I would be ok with any of the sentences.
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IanT



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With adverb phrases coming after the object like this, the order normally taught is "how" "where" "when" and then "why".

This is not an absolute rule, however, and "by a bad guy", being nearly "how", but not quite, makes it more complex.

In this case you have to go with what sounds ok. Personally I like 1 and 3

Hope helps,
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