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muni



Joined: 08 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:05 am    Post subject: use of shall Reply with quote

dear friends
please tell me when I should use shall .I have read in the grammer that we use shall with "I" and "we",but I have seen that people use will with "I" and "we"
for example
I will be there
or
I will miss you
so when we use shall ,please help
regards
muni
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bud



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Location: New Jersey, US

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost never hear anyone use "shall." It's so archaic that it sounds pretentious. Except for on a test or maybe while watching an old movie, you can forget about it and use "will" instead.
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muni



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so I should use "will" with I ,we,he and she. It would not make a difference.
thanks for help.
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bud



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right, Muni. I think it's almost universal that speakers say...

I will
You will
He/She/It will

We will
You will
They will
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obelix



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except for "Shall we dance?"
Also, "shall" expresses a more emphatic intention than "will"; as in McArthur's often quoted "I shall return."

You also see it used in the Bible and legal statutes to state a command or duty.
For instance, in the ten commandments "Thou shalt not kill."
"No person shall drive without lights after dark."
And so on.
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bud



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! Good point.

I amend what I said before with an "almost never."
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