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muni



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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 10:28 am    Post subject: Cafeteria Reply with quote

Once my friend told me not to say (pronounce) cafe (kafay) to cafeteria ,I should either say caf (kaf) or cafeteria but not cafe "that is kafay " is she correct or not.
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bud



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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cafe doesn't work because there is a type of eating place called a cafe. A cafe is more like a restaurant, but often specializing in coffee and snacks and often with tables outside on the sidewalk. Sometimes they also serve full meals.

Your friend is correct. Stick with cafeteria, or with caf when you are with your friends.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Cafe doesn't work because there is a type of eating place called a cafe."

Umm, what does this mean? What did you think Muni was asking? I think Muni is asking how to pronounce the word "cafe".

In Britain, people pronounce it two ways "kah-fay" and more commonly in the south of England people say "kahf". I think they say "Diner" in the US.

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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2003 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he is asking if he can use "cafe" as an abbreviation for "cafeteria." It sounds like he already knows the pronunciation for cafe.
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muni



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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes I want to know if I can use cafe as an abbreviation for cafetaria,because my friend told me that caf is the abbreviation for cafetaria,I was assuming that caf is pronounced as kahf and cafe is pronounced as only kah-fay not kahf because its a pronunciation of caf.
By the way I am not he Exclamation
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never quite understood the difference myself, never thought much about it before. But here's what I found on the web:

Info taken from http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Main Entry: caf·e·te·ria
Pronunciation: "ka-f&-'tir-E-&
Function: noun
Etymology: American Spanish cafetería coffeehouse, from cafetera coffee maker, from French cafetière, from café
Date: 1894
: a restaurant in which the customers serve themselves or are served at a counter and take the food to tables to eat

Main Entry: ca·fé
Variant(s): also ca·fe /ka-'fA, k&-/
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: French café coffee, café, from Turkish kahve -- more at COFFEE
Date: 1802
1 : a usually small and informal establishment serving various refreshments (as coffee); broadly : RESTAURANT
2 : BARROOM
3 : CABARET, NIGHTCLUB
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could the difference be that a 'cafeteria' or 'caf' is a restaurant / snack bar/ café within an institution (like a hospital or a college) intended to be used by the people who use the institution (doctors, students etc.)... and a café is a (usually small) restaurant / snack bar in the street, used by the public in general?
puffff, I'm exhausted after that loooong sentence.
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2003 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops! Sorry for my assumption Ms. Muni. Embarassed
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