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Teo



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: want someone to V / Ving Reply with quote

1. I don't want you coming home so late.

2. I don't want you to come home so late.

What's the difference between the above two sentences?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teo wrote:

1. I don't want you coming home so late.
2. I don't want you to come home so late.

What's the difference between the above two sentences?

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Both sentences are grammatical, but they're not the same. The two sentences seem to illustrate verbs with gerunds or infinitives, but the first sentence actually illustrates a different grammar pattern: a verb with an object complement.

In the second sentence, the grammar pattern is the negative use of want with an object (you) and an infinitive (to come).

In the first sentence, the grammar pattern is the negative form of want followed by an object (you) and a complement phrase (coming home so late) which describes the object.

These online resources will give you more information on object complements:

http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000020.htm

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/complmnt.html

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D. Oliver
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: One more question. Reply with quote

1. I want you standing up when the judge enters the court.
2. I want you to stand up when the judge enters the court.
3. I want you to be standing up when the judge enters the court.
What's the difference in meaning among the above three sentences?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: http://www.englishforums.com/English/WantSomeoneToVVing/bnbw Reply with quote

Hi,

The differences are fairly small and subtle, but here's what I feel.

1. I want you standing up when the judge enters the court. You never stand up when the judge comes in. This time you'd better remember. To me, there's a hint of exasperation.

2. I want you to stand up when the judge enters the court. A pretty neutral way to say it.

3. I want you to be standing up when the judge enters the court. I want you to stand up before the judge enters.


Best wishes, Clive


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Teo's responses to my comments Reply with quote

I think you expressed the differences between "I want you to stand" and "I want you standing" very well.

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