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[michelleunec]

Women in China enjoy a higher status than women in India. In March 1992, the United Nations decided to hold in the Fourth World Conference on Women (1995) in Beijing, the capital of China. Because of this important meeting, the entire world people pay high attention on the status of Chinese women. In the past, Chinese women experienced great degradation. New China promised that Chinese women would have equal rights with men in all areas, such as political, economic, cultural, social and family life. The government was also given enabling women to become real Chinese citizens, to be the masters of the state and society.
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[ltp-008]

michelleunec wrote:

[RedRose]

Do the women in China have the right to electe their country's leader?
Do the women in China have the right to freely express their opinions?
Do the women in China have the freedom of religion?
do the women in China have the right to assembly?

we do, we totally do.

However, sexism exists everywhere even in some advanced countries like US, UK. not in an obvious way.

[RedRose]

[ltp-008]

To RedRose:

Has China ever held any elections to elect the president of Poeple 's Rupublic of China ?Has the people of China ever held any elections to elect any governer ?When did you take part in that? You don't have any chance to participate in,how on the earth do you say "you do".Aren't you just publicly telling the lie?

In mainland china ,all media are controlled by the government,you even don't have the rights to access to some oversea media,your government blocks their unhappy contents in the Internet,How dare you say that you have the right to express freely your opinion?you only have the right to praise your dictatorship government.If you publicly say some bad things to your government ,you will be in trouble.

I don"t know what religion you worship,let me ask you :do the Christians in China must worship their beliefs in government -controlled churches?How dare you say you have the freedom of religion?

About the assembly ,you are joking!Do you have the right to assembly?Don't you forget the 1989?You only have the right to assembly in government -organized assembly.If you hold an assembly to oppose your government ,you are probability in prison.Please don't fool yourself any more!

[RedRose]

[ltp-008]

To RedRose:

Through what you said in this post,you are not qualified to be an educator.

[RedRose]

[Ducky]

I heard that there's a problem in China that pregnant women who find they're carrying girls will have abortions because men make more money. Is there any truth to that?

[beancurdturtle]

[ieltsinsider]

"Women in China enjoy a higher status than women in India."

What a great start to a thread! If the status of women in Sweden were 2 metres, the status of women in China and India would be about half a metre, with barely a centimetre between them.

Given that Chairman Mao promised women equality 60 years ago, the fact there has been some progress is hardly surprising. Women are equal to men in China under the law, but that does NOT take into account social perceptions. In this regard, women in China are not equal to men.

Women in China DO have the right to vote - but only from lists presented by the Communists and their cronies.

Can they express their views freely? Yes, if it agrees with the Communist Party policy.

Do they have freedom of religion? Yes, if the Communist Party agrees with their choice.

Do they have the right to assembly? Yes, if the Communist Party like what you are demonstrating about.

Red Rose - The Communist Party controls China and the Chinese people closely. Of course they control the elections. They admit it themselves!

Red Rose - You criticise ltp for his post, then race off into an emotional rant. This is the big problem with discussing things with Chinese people. They get all nationalistic and think that saying "Your country isn't perfect either" wins them the argument!

The institution which decides who can be an educator in China is actually not a very good one. The qualifications are: 1. Support the Communist Party view. 2. Get good grades (almost everyone in China gets good grades!). It's not fair to comment on Red Rose's qualifications on the basis of what she has written so far, but believe me, becoming an educator in China is far, far easier than becoming one in a Western country.

In response to Ducky, there are a few cases of that, but it is not as common as widely believed. The one-child policy is only strictly enforced in the cities. In the countryside, if your first child is a girl, you can have another child. Minorites, e.g. Tibetans, are also exempt from the one-child policy.

[ltp-008]

why I am sick of discussing some issues with a few Chinese is that they sometime are too emotional,narrow-minded and uneducated.Sometimes they like hellcats,they don't peacefully and reasonablly discuss issues .But most Chinese are intelligent and kindness,I have a several Chinese friends who are living in North America,they are very polite and kindnes.

[RedRose]

[Delia Gao]

[ieltsinsider]

I would like to point out that Red Rose has proved ltp correct.

Actually, Red Rose, I DID explain why becoming an educator in China is easier than in a Western country - you just decided to ignore that part.

Ah yes, the old "More people equals more competition" argument. RUBBISH!!! The quality of the competitors has far more influence than the number of competitors. Ask anyone who competes.

"Come here and you will see how hard it is." I'm not even going to comment on that.

"you aint educated". I'll bear that in mind.

"it's not our law nor our country who makes the discrimination, it's secular bias." If you read my post, you would notice that I made the point that the law in China does treat men and women equally. The problem is with social attitudes (not secular ones!). It seems you agree with this uneducated foreigner.

Religious freedom in China depends on whether you adhere to the government's strict rules. These rules are far stricter than in Western countries. I wasn't thinking of Falun Gong - I was thinking about Catholicism.

Did I say there was anything wrong with the one-child policy? You have proven ltp correct again!!!

KINDLY READ MY POSTS BEFORE YOU START WRITING ABOUT WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN!!!!