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[Edoardo]

Guys, you know, I usually quote fully your replies to answer them... but this time you're telling me too much, and I don't think I've understood your doubts completely...
Anyway, I think your questions against my argumentations are, more or less, these ones...




WHY DO YOU THINK ISLAMIC TERRORISM TO BE AN AGGRESSION, AND NOT A REACTION?
Because Islamic integralists do use terrorism as a weapon, not to declare their self-determination, not to gain peace, not to avoid poverty, not to get respect, - like other rivolutionaries, partisans or "disobedients"- but just to gain power. Their final purpose is not their own peace, nor their own wellbeing, but our total elimination. They won't stop until infidels will be all dead.

Think about Palestine: they could have reached peace and reciprocal respect a thousand times in the last 60 years. But they refused it. They don't want peace. They want the elimination of the State of Israel. The exsistance of the State of Israel is a heavy cultural and intellectual menace to the Islamic social system. (And the one who tells it is a muslim, but I dont remember his name now...)



WAR IN IRAQ IS THE ONLY CAUSE OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM. EXCEPT THE USA, ONLY COUNTRIES WHO TOOK PART IN THAT WAR HAVE BEEN ATTACKED.
It is not true. Also Italian and French soldiers and civilians have been attacked, killed, kidnapped in Iraq. Futhermore, they do not attack only political identities, such as armies, supposed spies, nations or administrations, but they fight also our IDEAS, our freedom of thinking what we want or what we wish. Some months ago, nearly a revolution was going on because of some satirical drawings published on a Danish newspaper (Danish! Danish!!!). The drawings were about Muhammad or showed some commonplaces about the Islamic world.

The last fatwas against free western citizens have been made against Pope Benedictus XVI and French journalist Robert Redeker.
The Papacy has always blamed war in Iraq. Anyway, the Pope has been condemned for having quoted a medieval thinker. Will he ask somebody next time he wants to read a book?
Robert Redeker, french journalist and professor, has been blamed for some considerations he made, in an article, about islam. Not against it... Anyway, he can't do it. You can't do it!



That's it. You cannot freely talk about Islam. At least, not when they hear you. They are now gradually suppressing our freedom, in this case, our so-called freedom of opinion and freedom of speech. It's their next step.
Assailing someonelse's liberties is not a reaction to anything. Stating "You can't talk like that, otherwise I kill you" It's an aggression which has nothing to do with any economic or political action, and has no motivation at all, except pure hate.

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