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loli · Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Saudi Arabia

the holy koran is the only evidence one does need to prove that Allah exsists. there are many facts in the koran and alot of stories about people who lived long ago. there are alot of scientific facts too, but the question is how did prophet Mohammad ( peace be upon him) knew these facts ? he was an illetrate man who lived more than 1400 years ago ! how did he knew all these things ???? It was ALLAH who sent down the koran on him (peace be upon him) .

THANK ALLAH FOR BEING A MUSLIM

saratheswede · Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 8

The Bible is one of the proofs that God exists (+ everything that He has created of course Very Happy

)....according to the believers of the Bible.

Do you always have to add "peace be upon him"? If Mohammed is the greatest prophet in Islam, does he need "extra peace"?

I don't have a lot of knowledge about Islam, but I thought according to the Muslims Mohammed walked on this planet before Jesus Christ???? Jesus died on the Cross almost 2000years ago.

How did Mohammed "disappear" from earth by the way?

THANK GOD FOR BEING A CHRISTIAN!!!! Very Happy

CP · Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 2875 Location: California

I know almost nothing about the Qu'uran, but I am interested to learn more.

May I ask you, Loli, what scientific facts are in the Qu'uran that Mohammad received from Allah and put into the book? I would like to know the "chapter and verse" so that I can read them for myself (in translation, of course).

Thank you very much.

Yours truly,

CP

loli · Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Saudi Arabia

hi everyone ,
sorry i didn't reply sooner ( i was out of the country)

sara , no prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) was sent by Allah after Jesus and he died as any normal human being and his grave is in AlMadinah ALMunorah in Saudi Arabia. you can learn more about Islam in here:
http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/quran/
and CP, you can just search in google to know more about Islam .
and there are alot of facts in the koran , one is the explanation of the exact process of the growth of the baby inside his mother .

i'm sorry my english isn't that very well to explain more but you can chek it in the site i gave ubove .

thanks

ahm_k1 · Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 21

peace be upon you Laughing

I hope you will get the point saying pbu is a command from God and so did his Great prophet pbu .
something in our religion and not the business of any body to say why .... the love and the gratitude to our greaest Mohamed peace be upon him and all other prophet of God

beancurdturtle · Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject:

This assertion that god exists because a prophet (one of many in human history) knew some scientific facts that are in a "holy" book has already been dragged out and beaten to death.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/student/viewtopic.php?p=77027#77027

You want my opinion?
People develop faith and "beliefs" because they fear the unknown. End fear, and you end the need for mythology, religion, prophets, holy books, and all the dogma, rituals, wars, and arguments spawned by them.

Religious beliefs are like bad medicine, disguising the symptoms (confusion and anxiety), instead of removing the cause (fear).
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�Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.�
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ad-miral · Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1488

I don't care what all the people believe but why do they have to make other people to believe it?
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If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

beancurdturtle · Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject:

RedRose · Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2735 Location: GuangZhou, China

Is this about mysterous and strange? I thought it was about religion Rolling Eyes

ad-miral · Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1488

religion is a mysterious thing itself.

I agree turtle, chauvinism is very bad. Why don't we just give a bit of love to each other? (and maybe my gf to me, hahaha)
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If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

RedRose · Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2735 Location: GuangZhou, China

ad-miral · Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1488

Speaking of sex... RR, how can I persuade her that it's time?
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If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

RedRose · Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 2735 Location: GuangZhou, China

ad-miral · Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1488

PORN???
Goshgoshgosh does this really function? Remember my gf is half as old as you.
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If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

ahm_k1 · Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 21

Ofcource no one whoever he is can force anybody to beleive or be persuaded .... Confused

and although as you said a mysterious yet we have to live our lives in love to each other according to ethics that the pure white heart agree to, love the nature feel it was created to serve ALL humankind
give respect to its powerful abilities and not against it .........
At last we should respect ourselves and the others' ideas and beleifs Rolling Eyes

Then help each other to overcome obstacles in life to cross that world safely keep moral
yours ..