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Anuradha Chepur



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Terror attacks Reply with quote

In Hyderabad.
The second time in three months.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Terror attacks Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur wrote:
In Hyderabad.
The second time in three months.
What is their goal?
For terrorism to be effective, you must have a desired change in your victims. When a bomb goes off in a Tel Aviv café, the message is "Jews get out of the Middle East or we will kill you all." When a bomb goes off on a bus in London, the message is "Limey dhimmis get out of the Middle East or we will kill you all."
What is the message these devout practitioners of the religion of peace trying to tell you?
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Anuradha Chepur



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bomb in the Lumbini park was timed to go during the singing of the national anthem at the end of the laser show. It was a weekend, and bombs went off at a hot eat-joint and a park, which will naturally be crowded, and a little later unexploded bombs were recovered from cinema houses, a pedestrian overbridge.

The message is clear, "Look, we secretly dream India becomes an Islamic state, and it isn't even after 12 centuries of invasions and attacks. You guys are just too smart and how dare you make so much progress. We will disrupt peace, terrorise non-muslims and cause whatever damage we can."

Why Hyderabad?
Currently Hyderabad is one of the most happening cities in India in the economic boom, a hub for sofware and call-center companies. The idea is to disrupt the economy, scare western companies, who are setting up branches or outsourcing here, create communal clashes etc. Hyderabad has 40% muslim population, so they think it is easy to disrupt communal harmony.
Bangalore, another IT hub, was also targeted earlier.

Of course, the Kashmir dispute is supposedly the root cause of Pakistan sponsored Islamic terrorism in India.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly after 100 days of the blasts in the Mecca Masjid, terror struck Hyderabad on Saturday, killing 40 people.


Five killed in India mosque explosionhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/05/18/1927248.htm

Posted Fri May 18, 2007 7:00pm AEST

At least five people were killed after a explosion during Friday prayers at an historic mosque in the capital of the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh, police said.

Another 22 people were injured at Mecca Masjid, the main mosque in Hyderabad.

Hyderabad has a large Muslim population and several historic mosques.

-Reuters
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur wrote:
The message is clear, "Look, we secretly dream India becomes an Islamic state, and it isn't even after 12 centuries of invasions and attacks. You guys are just too smart and how dare you make so much progress. We will disrupt peace, terrorise non-muslims and cause whatever damage we can."

Say what you will about Jews, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Agnostics, or Athiests, they do not go around killing people who don't want to convert to their beliefs. They have other reasons for killing people, but at least they don't adhere to the ridiculous, mad belief that people will see the light and honestly convert to the "true religion" under threat of death.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur wrote:
The message is clear, "Look, we secretly dream India becomes an Islamic state, and it isn't even after 12 centuries of invasions and attacks. You guys are just too smart and how dare you make so much progress. We will disrupt peace, terrorise non-muslims and cause whatever damage we can."
Or in a nutshell, convert or die. Great. If your leaders are anything like those of N. America and Europe, you better get fitted for your burqa now to avoid the rush when the Jihadis take over.
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Of course, the Kashmir dispute is supposedly the root cause of Pakistan sponsored Islamic terrorism in India.
You know, a lot of these are just excuses. If you yielded Kashmir to Pakistan, do you think they will declare peace with India forever, or would they just come up with another reason to maintain hostilities and their nukes pointed at you? Confused
k.m.m wrote:
Exactly after 100 days of the blasts in the Mecca Masjid, terror struck Hyderabad on Saturday, killing 40 people.
Mad Crying or Very sad
ABC News wrote:
A bomb blast killed 32 people last year at a mosque in the western state of Maharashtra, an attack which police blamed on a banned Islamic students group trying to spark communal tension.
Interesting, and not the least surprising. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.m.m wrote:
Exactly after 100 days of the blasts in the Mecca Masjid, terror struck Hyderabad on Saturday, killing 40 people.


Bangladeshi jihadis were responsible for the Mecca Masjid blasts. None of the muslim organizations or leaders in India thought or said that Hindus were responsible for it, thought the attack was intended for them to think that way.

Bob.S wrote:
If you yielded Kashmir to Pakistan, do you think they will declare peace with India forever, or would they just come up with another reason to maintain hostilities and their nukes pointed at you?


All said and done, in India, hindus and muslims do co-exist peacefully, follow their respective cultures and don't interfere in eachother's cultures.
Hyderabad, moreover, is where muslims are given most respect.
Now all this is unpalatable to fundamentalists and jihadis in muslim countries, and are all the time trying to instigate the muslims here.
Some poverty-stricken people may fall prey to them, I suppose, and accept employment as bombers etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say what you will about Jews, Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Agnostics, or Athiests, they do not go around killing people who don't want to convert to their beliefs. They have other reasons for killing people, but at least they don't adhere to the ridiculous, mad belief that people will see the light and honestly convert to the "true religion" under threat of death.[/quote]

cp:
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after 100 days of the blasts in the Mecca Masjid, terror struck Hyderabad on Saturday, killing 40 people.
At least five people were killed after a explosion during Friday prayers at an historic mosque in the capital of the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh, police said.

May be they want Muslim to be convert to non Muslim! Laughing Wink

I think very dirty politics are behind those foreigners who terror good Muslim while praying Friday in their mosque.
Due to election, many things like this happened in India and Pakistan ...the victims are poor people.
Election and freedom are the true faces of a pretty coin called democracy, and if this coin very dirtiey, the result all the time is bloody.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Due to election, many things like this happened in India and Pakistan ...the victims are poor people
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No. Terror attacks aren't election-linked internal politics .
Albeit, the government's soft policy on terrorists is linked to elections,
so as to not lose muslim votes.

Why hasn't USA had attacks again in six years now?
Offence is the best defence, so far as terrorism is concerned.
But India hasn't risen to that state yet, where it can independently
take strong actions.


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Election and freedom are the true faces of a pretty coin called democracy, and if this coin very dirtiey, the result all the time is bloody.


In a way yes, freedom and democracy are the reason for terrorism,
because dictatorsihps don't like them and want to disupt peace in such countries.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k.m.m wrote:
Election and freedom are the true faces of a pretty coin called democracy, and if this coin very dirty, the result all the time is bloody.
Is that what they teach you in the Jihadi madrasah?

Anuradha Chepur wrote:
Why hasn't USA had attacks again in six years now?
I figure it's that when the jihadi suicide terrorists arrive here, they discover they can get a good job and have a good life that is more tempting than the image of Paradise offered by the extremist imams. Who cares about having 47 doe-eyed virgins waiting for you when you can have hundreds of Britney Spears wannabes willing to jump you now? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This rhetorical question and answer...
Anuradha Chepur wrote:
Why hasn't USA had attacks again in six years now?
Offence is the best defence, so far as terrorism is concerned.
...is nonsense.

Offense against whom?

Don't take this as a endorsement of terrorism. It's not. But the US "war on terrorism" is like a giant, clubbing a buffalo with a tree trunk, to kill a gnat on it's rump.

What is needed is extraordinarily good intelligence and targeted police action.
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Anuradha Chepur



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is 'offence', if people want to look at a proactive war on terror that way.

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But the US "war on terrorism" is like a giant, clubbing a buffalo with a tree trunk, to kill a gnat on it's rump.

I can only give you an A+ for your creative writing, and a wonderful attempt at simile and metaphor.

But actually, it's like a brave mouse belling the cat.



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What is needed is extraordinarily good intelligence and targeted police action.

I don't believe in putting yourself in the defensive for this sort of a problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur wrote:
Quote:

Due to election, many things like this happened in India and Pakistan ...the victims are poor people
.

No. Terror attacks aren't election-linked internal politics .
Albeit, the government's soft policy on terrorists is linked to elections,
so as to not lose muslim votes.

Why hasn't USA had attacks again in six years now?
Offence is the best defence, so far as terrorism is concerned.
But India hasn't risen to that state yet, where it can independently
take strong actions.


Quote:
Election and freedom are the true faces of a pretty coin called democracy, and if this coin very dirtiey, the result all the time is bloody.


In a way yes, freedom and democracy are the reason for terrorism,
because dictatorsihps don't like them and want to disupt peace in such countries.



May be only this one not related, but in general speaking politics and elections are the main issues..

Why USA and Saudi Arabia both had not been attacked recently ?
I think because cooperation and exchange intelligent information between them and other concerned counters are strong and helpful.
Believe me if India and other counters are very corporative to each other and work honestly in this field ,terrorists and bad people from both sides can be eliminated or at least controlled.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anuradha Chepur wrote:
It is 'offence', if people want to look at a proactive war on terror that way.

Quote:
But the US "war on terrorism" is like a giant, clubbing a buffalo with a tree trunk, to kill a gnat on it's rump.

I can only give you an A+ for your creative writing, and a wonderful attempt at simile and metaphor.

But actually, it's like a brave mouse belling the cat.



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What is needed is extraordinarily good intelligence and targeted police action.

I don't believe in putting yourself in the defensive for this sort of a problem.


Dr. Chepur,

1. I used English in the American vernacular. Not U.K. English, not Indian English.
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/ wrote:
(n) offense, offence, offensive (the action of attacking an enemy)
(adj) offensive (for the purpose of attack rather than defense) "offensive weapons"


2. I attacked your opinion - which is fair for intellectual equals.

3. I did not attack your competence or your writing ability. And it was completely unnecessary for you to stoop to ridiculing (on questionable grounds) my use of English and my apt metaphor.

4. Who is the cat and who is the mouse in your metaphor?

5. Considering the way George Bush deals with terrorism - which is a rash of criminal activities - you would think he would thrash on a bed of nails to pr|ck a few pimples on his ass. His strategy insults the whole body of Islam (which is not the enemy), and does nothing to address the individual perpetrators.

6. I do not suggest defensiveness or complacency. I suggest targeted, proactive, efficient, effective police action against the individual perpetrators.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="k.m.m"]
Anuradha Chepur wrote:
Quote:

Due to election, many things like this happened in India and Pakistan ...the victims are poor people
.

No. Terror attacks aren't election-linked internal politics .
Albeit, the government's soft policy on terrorists is linked to elections,
so as to not lose muslim votes.

Why hasn't USA had attacks again in six years now?
Offence is the best defence, so far as terrorism is concerned.
But India hasn't risen to that state yet, where it can independently
take strong actions.


Quote:
Election and freedom are the true faces of a pretty coin called democracy, and if this coin very dirtiey, the result all the time is bloody.


In a way yes, freedom and democracy are the reason for terrorism,
because dictatorsihps don't like them and want to disupt peace in such countries.



May be only this one not related, but in general speaking politics and elections are the main issues..

Why USA and Saudi Arabia both had not been attacked recently ?
I think because cooperation and exchange intelligent information between them and other concerned counters are strong and helpful.
Believe me if India and other counters are very corporative to each other and work honestly in this field ,terrorists and bad people from both sides can be eliminated or at least controlled.

KMM
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