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Metamorfose
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fluffyhamster
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would take more than those pair of sentences to master 'certainly' "versus" 'of course'. And even the Right sentence can be expressed in so many different ways. Ultimately it just doesn't make much sense to me to present these sorts of "conflicting" examples much (though I appreciate that a learner who has made a mistake may sometimes need some indication(s) of how they might otherwise express the propostion(s) concerned). |
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fluffyhamster
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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The conflicting/deliberately-opposed notions that appear to be trying to emerge here are "therefore" and "unsurprisingly". 'Of course' is the item that covers both notions the most (at least, according to the Cambridge definitions you've supplied), though I feel that the "unsurprisingly" meaning is the stronger, and indeed part of the Cambridge definition and a perfect substitute: 'used to show that a situation or a piece of information is not surprising' (He overworked himself and unsurprisingly/very predictably/lo and behold/surprise, surprise/whaddya know/would you believe it/yup, you guessed it, fell ill).
The Cambridge exampleS and definitions are actually rather good, in that they do give you a much better idea (much better than the two examples you're toying with, José) of the pretty consistent discourse function and general structural position of each item.
I'd advise that you look up 'surely' in the Cambridge too, because my intuition is telling me that it isn't really used to draw definite conclusions in the way you're presenting (rather, I believe it's used for asking genuine or at least rhetorical questions, i.e. will probably appear at the beginning or end of questions. I haven't checked the Cambridge, and will leave that to you, but I'd be surprised if I was far off the mark here).
To be honest, I didn't actually feel that EITHER of the wasiarman examples that you began with were good exemplars, though given the forced choice between them one would of course have to pick the "Right" sentence over the (more clearly) Wrong one. Why not just stick with something like the Cambridge dictionary in future, then?  |
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