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(Verbs in) phase?

 
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:06 pm    Post subject: (Verbs in) phase? Reply with quote

I've mentioned the concept of 'phase' on the forums a few times now, and I reckon it could have its uses. However, I didn't really hear or learn about it from the COBUILD Grammar, so when I was taking a closer look at that book the other day, I came across something a bit puzzling (which I've highlighted in bold):
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(The title of the section is 'Talking about closely linked actions: using two verbs together in phase'. I've omitted sections 3.183 - 3.185, and obviously all that follows 3.186)

verb forms 3.186 The first verb involved in a phase structure is the main verb of the structure. It is usually finite; that is, it inflects for tense and agrees in number with the subject of the clause.

I wanted him to come.
Lonnie wants to say 'sorry'.
More and more people are coming to appreciate the contribution which Muslims make to our society.


However, it can be a non-finite form.

There is a need to react to new opportunities with speed.


Er, isn't that basically a noun + complement rather than "two verbs in series"? (And transforming it to apparent underlying meanings doesn't help: A need exists to react to new opportunities with speed; ?To react to new opportunities with speed is necessary; etc (?)).

I guess examples of non-finite, dependent clauses, such as Not wishing to boast, he paused (adapting an example from chapter 8, by reversing its clauses) might be more what COBUILD was suggesting?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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isn't that basically a noun + complement

I would say that it is.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, thanks, Ouyang!

Makes you wonder sometimes quite who they delegate the grunt work to when writing these grammars...but of course, overall the COBUILD is a pretty valuable (invaluable?) resource!
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