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Itasan
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car racer

Post by Itasan » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:05 am

Do these all work?
1-1. racing car driver
1-2. race car driver
1-3. racing driver
1-4. car racer
2-1. racing car
2-2. race car

Thank you.

tigertiger
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Post by tigertiger » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:22 am

sbourque wrote:
And in the U.S. we have "meter maids", who check to make sure your parking meter has not expired, and write you a ticket if it has. I've never heard of, or seen, a "meter man".
In UK we also use meter maids for female traffic wardens. However male traffic wardens are refered to using uncomplimentary that make reference to Germany in the period of 1935-45.

The "meter man" would be someone from the gas or electicity company who can to read the meter.

tigertiger
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Re: car racer

Post by tigertiger » Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:26 am

Itasan wrote:Do these all work?
1-1. racing car driver
1-2. race car driver
1-3. racing driver
1-4. car racer
2-1. racing car
2-2. race car

Thank you.
1-4 doesn't work in by BrE head. I have a picture of a kid on a bike racing against cars.

Other are all ok

Itasan
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car race

Post by Itasan » Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:32 am

Thank you very much, tigertiger.
'Car race' and 'car racing' are OK?
Like:
"I went to see a car race [racing] yesterday."

tigertiger
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Re: car race

Post by tigertiger » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:24 am

Itasan wrote:Thank you very much, tigertiger.
'Car race' and 'car racing' are OK?
Like:
"I went to see a car race [racing] yesterday."
NB
to add to the confusion. :? In the UK in general, if you just refer to racing, e.g. 'did you watch the racing?'
this would be taken as horse racing.

but if you just asked, 'did you watch the race?', then there would need to be a definate 'race' to which you are refering.
For example on the day of the London Marathon, it would be assumed that this was the race in question. Unless of course you are in the company of those who like to 'have a flutter on the gee-gees'

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end day for use

Post by Itasan » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:36 am

On a food pack and the like, we see the end time for use.
Do these all work?
1. Best until Oct. 31, 2007.
2. Best before Oct. 31. 2007.
3. Best end Oct. 31. 2007.
4. any other?
Also, is there a single term for it?
1. Term for Use??
2. Deadline for US??
3. End Day??
Also, are there any such expressions for things other than food,
if ever?

Thank you.

tigertiger
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Re: end day for use

Post by tigertiger » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:19 am

Itasan wrote:On a food pack and the like, we see the end time for use.
Do these all work?
1. Best until Oct. 31, 2007.
2. Best before Oct. 31. 2007.
3. Best end Oct. 31. 2007.
4. any other?
Also, is there a single term for it?
1. Term for Use??
2. Deadline for US??
3. End Day??
Also, are there any such expressions for things other than food,
if ever?

Thank you.
Expiry dates for perishable items, could be food, pharmacy, photo films, some powdered products, cosmetics, chemicals, etc.

In China there is the date of production stamped on the product. Not much help if you do not know the shelf-life of a product.
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Itasan
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expiry date

Post by Itasan » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:25 am

Thank you very much, tigertiger.

tigertiger
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Re: end day for use

Post by tigertiger » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:25 am

Itasan wrote:On a food pack and the like, we see the end time for use.
Do these all work?
1. Best until Oct. 31, 2007.
2. Best before Oct. 31. 2007.
3. Best end Oct. 31. 2007.
4. any other?
4. Use before - on paint and other non food items

It makes me wonder if there are any such labels on chem1cal wepons :shock:

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Re: end day for use

Post by Amy_H » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:02 am

tigertiger wrote:
Itasan wrote:On a food pack and the like, we see the end time for use.
Do these all work?
1. Best until Oct. 31, 2007.
2. Best before Oct. 31. 2007.
3. Best end Oct. 31. 2007.
4. any other?
Also, is there a single term for it?
1. Term for Use??
2. Deadline for US??
3. End Day??
Also, are there any such expressions for things other than food,
if ever?

Thank you.
Expiry dates for perishable items, could be food, pharmacy, photo films, some powdered products, cosmetics, chemicals, etc.

In China there is the date of production stamped on the product. Not much help if you do not know the shelf-life of a product.
Hi Itasan

In AmE, it would be "expiration date". I've also heard people say "the use by date".

Amy

Itasan
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molokheiya

Post by Itasan » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:39 pm

molokheiya
A kind of plant. We eat it here. Said to be good for health.
Is it common in English-speaking countries?

Thank you.

Itasan
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women-only car

Post by Itasan » Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:25 am

Most trains here now have 'women-only cars', a couple of cars
during rush hours. I wonder if there are any in English-speaking
countries. If so, what do you call it?
Also, is the sign on the car 'WOMEN ONLY'?
One night, I rushed in. There they were, lots of glittering eyes
toward me. I managed to get out before the door closed.

sbourque
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Location: USA

Post by sbourque » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:08 am

In the States we have seats at the front of the subway or bus that are reserved for pregnant women or handicapped. Others can sit there but have to give up the seats to those categories.

Itasan
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pen name / pseudonym

Post by Itasan » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:33 am

Are 'pen name' and 'pseudonym' the same thing?

Thank you.

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Re: end day for use

Post by eslweb » Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:43 am

Amy_H wrote:
tigertiger wrote:
Itasan wrote:On a food pack and the like, we see the end time for use.
Do these all work?
1. Best until Oct. 31, 2007.
2. Best before Oct. 31. 2007.
3. Best end Oct. 31. 2007.
4. any other?
Also, is there a single term for it?
1. Term for Use??
2. Deadline for US??
3. End Day??
Also, are there any such expressions for things other than food,
if ever?

Thank you.
Expiry dates for perishable items, could be food, pharmacy, photo films, some powdered products, cosmetics, chemicals, etc.

In China there is the date of production stamped on the product. Not much help if you do not know the shelf-life of a product.
Hi Itasan

In AmE, it would be "expiration date". I've also heard people say "the use by date".

Amy
I used to work for a labelling company and in the UK there is a very specific legal meaning of food labels:

Use by 5 July 2006 - Means that you may become ill if you eat the food after this date e.g. Milk or cooked goods.

Best Before - Means that the food may taste bad and isn't guaranteed, but will not do you any harm.

You will find complete guidelines at:
http://www.food.gov.uk/foodindustry/gui ... bydateguid
(Not recommended for learners below advanced if that...)

James
http://www.jamesabela.co.uk/

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