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Independent VS School FM3

 
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swoodman



Joined: 15 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Independent VS School FM3 Reply with quote

I work for two schools here in Guadalajara. Im new so I only have a tourist visa. My school say theyll give me a letter if I need one when I go down to the immigration office.

Is the best idea to get an Independent FM 3? I don�t want to have to repeat the process when I start work at a new place.

Can someone walk me through the process?

Thanks in advance.
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Enchilada Potosina



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 344
Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: Independent VS School FM3 Reply with quote

swoodman wrote:
My school say theyll give me a letter if I need one when I go down to the immigration office.

Sounds like a professional place.

swoodman wrote:
Is the best idea to get an Independent FM 3? I don�t want to have to repeat the process when I start work at a new place.

Bear in mind that if you go independiente then you (in theory at least) have to issue recibos de honorarios which means dealing with the tax people and getting an accountant - a fair bit of hassle for the newbie. However, it seems that some migra places will overlook this as long as you can provide proof of income from somewhere. This means your school(s) will have to give you some kind of recibo de nomina(pay stub) with the relevant deductions. If you're just getting cash in hand, forget it.
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hiddenninja



Joined: 29 Dec 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am receiving cash in hand.....are you saying I can't register as an independent without a pay stub?


In all other regards my school have been professional, I only work ten hours a week there. They have mentioned that they'll give me a letter of recommendation but it seems they expect me to do it myself.
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Enchilada Potosina



Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Location: Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiddenninja wrote:
I am receiving cash in hand.....are you saying I can't register as an independent without a pay stub?

Yes, they'll ask for proof of income. The benefit of independiente status is it simplifies the process of working in various places i.e. if a school wants to hire you, they don't have to go through the whole letter to migra application procedure every time you get a new job.

hiddenninja wrote:
In all other regards my school have been professional, I only work ten hours a week there. They have mentioned that they'll give me a letter of recommendation but it seems they expect me to do it myself.

Probably best to go to migra and ask what the requirements are as they are changing all the time. The letter you'll need is for a job offer, not a letter of recommendation. It sounds like the school can't be bothered to go through the hassle of getting your papers in order.
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hiddenninja



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot......Im joining a new school as so they may be able to do it for me...or at least give me the job offer you mention.

1 more question.....Is there any way I can get a pay stub made up by my school and thus still register as an independent, even though I've been paid cash in hand throughout?
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't need a pay stub (or proof of income like tax forms) for the very first time you apply for the independent status...only for subsequent renewals.
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mejms



Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Guy says, getting the independent visa for the first year won't be hard.

Continuing with it the following year will be if you can't demonstrate that you're actually using your independent visa. The only way to prove your using it is with tax statements.

And you're also getting involved with Hacienda, the Mexican IRS. You will need an honest accountant and you will need issue receipts every month.

Another possibility would be to apply for your independent visa and have your employer process an extension of activity to this visa. This way you'll have the benefit of an independent visa and you won't need to issue receipts every month. But this would only be possible if (1) you were being paid legally (not under the table), (2) your employer were willing to do this, and (3) someone will pay for both the independent visa and the extension of work activity (the cost of another visa).
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