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Lambton Jiangnan University - AVOID IT

 
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Lambton Jiangnan University - AVOID IT Reply with quote

I started working at Lambton in August. I received a few pms asking me for info.

I wont go into a long post here but...

The turnover rate is extreamly high. About 70% of the fts leave every term. 2 fts pulled runners the first month.

The administation is very poor at dealing with anything - both the chinese and the canadians. Many classes have no textbooks - even for the teachers. My studuents used 12 chapters of illegal photocopies of the textbook. Lambton in Canada didn't care at all.

Corruption is high with the chinese and the canadians overcharging the students and sometimes just outright stealing their money.

Lambton is your basic pay-as-you-go degree mill. The quality of education is very bad and the quality of students - most of them - are way below average. The students know they will receive thier degree whether they study or not. Lambton allows organised cheating amongst the students and complaints to both canada and china are ignored.

Contracts are not honored, teachers are cheated.

Lambton should be put on the scam warnings list... I figured working for a candaian school would be different... its not. Lambton now just has canadians cheating the students not just chinese...

Lambton is a bad organisation and should be avoided. Feel free to pm me for more details...
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff
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How are contracts not honored or teachers cheated?


gee, my english not be so good maybe cant i understand well so me tell tell you Jeffie say

Jeff
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jiriki66



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Lambton Reply with quote

Lambton is to be avoided not only in Jiangnan but Changchun and Wuxi as well where I worked for two semesters and for three weeks respectively last year. I agree with all that Jeffinflorida says. To me after three years in the country, the part I could not get my head around was their unwillingness to cooperate even when it was demonstrably in their own self-interest. Many Chinese were friendly enough, off course, but at Lambton but there was an air of contempt in the air, brought about in part no doubt by the frequent turnover in fts. Lambton is perhaps the only employer that offers a ticket out of China after only a single semester, a tactic adopted to combat their abysmal rate of turnover. They are no different than a common language mill, except the teachers are more poorly treated. No self-respecting teacher should consider working for Lambton�s Chinese partners. .
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cj750s



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True to Jeff's and jiriki66 word, Lambton anywhere, is a place to avoid.
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Trish Flurman



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do people just talk bad about a school but won't bother to give any examples of what they supposedly do that is so bad or any 'facts' at all?
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the most negative issues with Lambton is that every semester they pick an FT to be a "Supervisor" of the other teachers. For this "honor" the Ft will spy on the other teachers and rat on them to the administation.

This term it was an American female from California, I won't say her real name so we will just call her Patricia Hedara Cohen. She became the rat and reported the activites of all the other teachers for some personal agenda of hers.

I found out that they do this every term and it is an easy way for them to get gossip on the teachers. In addition this race tratior became present in personal meetings between teachers and the school and also used her "friends" to gather information for her to give to the school.

By this I mean at dinners she would have her "friends" sit at tables and take note of non school related issues or teachers feelings about the school and then pass this info to the school.

She caused alot of problems and ill feelings for the school.

The worst part is she never realised that she was just a tool of the administraion and being used...
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trish Flurman wrote:
Why do people just talk bad about a school but won't bother to give any examples of what they supposedly do that is so bad or any 'facts' at all?


He listed like 10 facts, if you would like, I can put them into point form for you, Trish.

- The turnover rate is extreamly high. About 70% of the fts leave every term. 2 fts pulled runners the first month.

- The administation is very poor at dealing with anything - both the chinese and the canadians.

- Many classes have no textbooks - even for the teachers. My studuents used 12 chapters of illegal photocopies of the textbook.

- Lambton in Canada didn't care at all.

- Lambton is your basic pay-as-you-go degree mill. The quality of education is very bad and the quality of students - most of them - are way below average.

-The students know they will receive thier degree whether they study or not. Lambton allows organised cheating amongst the students and complaints to both canada and china are ignored.

-Contracts are not honored, teachers are cheated.

-Corruption is high with the chinese and the canadians overcharging the students and sometimes just outright stealing their money.


Easier for you, Trish?
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GWofW if I need an attorney then you are hired...

These are facts not opinons by the way...
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arioch36



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One "management" principle every school has been good at is "divide and conquer", trying to divide the laowai as soon as possible
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Brian Caulfield



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to work at the school three years ago and was stood up by the person who was supposed to interview me. I understand that they wanted to make me feel small and insignificant. Canadians are the worst people to work for in China. I say this as a Canadian who regrets his heritage.
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cj750s



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Canadians are the worst people to work for in China.


Try the Singaporeans at Raffles before you bestow the crown.
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jeffinflorida



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to respond the poster who pm'd me...

Avoid Lambton is my input...
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Fred Smith



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone have any updates about Lambton? Anything newer to add, good or bad?
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