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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Online teaching and taxation Reply with quote

Say you were doing some online teaching for a company that wasn't in the same country as you, where and who would pay the tax? I ask because I was speaking to a taxation lawyer this moring who said that the legislation doesn't exist in Turkey, so theoretically I could work in Turkey legally and not pay taxes Smile
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danielita



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for a company in France and live in Canada. As the income is generated in Canada, I pay Canadian income tax. It is part of my contract with the company in France...

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guty



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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are resident in the UK you are liable for UK tax on income generated anywhere in the world. I would be surprised if that isn't the case in Turkey and virtually everywhere else too. However, the issue is how the government would find out about your income from abroad.

Death and taxes ....
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Chris_Crossley



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Declaring income - wherever it comes from - to HM Government Reply with quote

guty wrote:
However, the issue is how the government would find out about your income from abroad.


If you were resident in the U.K. and you worked full-time for a company that is based abroad but required you to work from home (thus obviating the need for you physically to go to work in another building, as it were), you would certainly have to declare your income when the time comes for you to return that dreaded self-assessment tax form.

After all, if you are neither a full-time student nor unemployed nor a single parent with a pre-school child nor retired nor classified as disabled and unable to work, how would you survive in this money-oriented world of ours?
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the same goes for Italy.

According to my accountant, if you are legally resident in Italy, you pay tax here for all income - whether you have generated it in Italy or in another country.
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misterbrownpants



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you have any contacts for online ESL teaching?
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johnslat



Joined: 21 Jan 2003
Posts: 13859
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: TutorABC Reply with quote

I was recently contacted by an outfit called TutorABC for on-line tutoring. Has anyone heard of them?

"A search of the resumes at GreatTeacher.com supplied us with your
contact information.
TutorABC is a web-based, English language teaching organization with
more than 3000 current clients. We offer a legitimate working opportunity
for teachers to supplement their incomes by teaching online part-time.
If you are interested, please visit our recruiting website at:

http://recruit.tutorabc.com/asp/a.asp

Here you will be able to download our TutorABC teaching software and
schedule a live, online interview.


http://www.tutorabc.com/asp/security.asp?language=en

Reagrds,
John
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xtollerant



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Declaring income - wherever it comes from - to HM Govern Reply with quote

[quote="Chris_Crossley"][quote="guty"]However, the issue is how the government would find out about your income from abroad.[/quote]

If you were resident in the U.K. and you worked full-time for a company that is based abroad but required you to work from home (thus obviating the need for you physically to go to work in another building, as it were), you would certainly have to declare your income when the time comes for you to return that dreaded self-assessment tax form.

After all, if you are neither a full-time student nor unemployed nor a single parent with a pre-school child nor retired nor classified as disabled and unable to work, how would you survive in this money-oriented world of ours?[/quote]

Hey,.. you guys should try working for TutorABC,- they're experts on international tax law as imposed by the ROC Taiwan. No matter how solidly you argue with them they'll merrily insist on whacking you with a 20% tax hit which they insist is required by law under ROC taxation rules. This in fact is a complete sham as they are paying service providers located overseas in a foreign currency ($USD) and the consultant is not a resident of Taiwan (and never will be). Everyone knows that whatever income you place into a banking account of the country of your own residence is subject to taxation from that country. I suspect some kind of rort in which they�re pocketing an extra 20% margin from casual consultants that generally will come and go every month or two via the revolving door that appears to operate at TutorABC,- this explains their constant efforts to recruit new unsuspecting recruits into their fold.
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MELEE



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the US you'd also report the income to US taxes, but unless you are really raking in the dough, you probably won't have to actually PAY any tax. If the company is not based in the US, it'd be foreign income, which can be up to what 80,000 before you have to pay tax.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee... if you are in the US, 100% of income from all sources is taxable. (even if you steal it or find it on the street) It is not where the employer is, but where you are. I live in the US and do work online for a foreign company. By law, I must declare it on my US taxes.

If you are overseas, the income would be included in the $80,000 exclusion if you have achieved overseas tax status under the law.

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MELEE



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Melee... if you are in the US, 100% of income from all sources is taxable. (even if you steal it or find it on the street) It is not where the employer is, but where you are. I live in the US and do work online for a foreign company. By law, I must declare it on my US taxes.

If you are overseas, the income would be included in the $80,000 exclusion if you have achieved overseas tax status under the law.

VS

I just ASSUMED (yes I know what the makes) that the question was about people living outside the US--I often forget that people want to live there. Laughing
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incidentally as far as the UK goes your tax liability depends on whether you are domiciled. That is very different from resident. You can be a permanent resident and still have non-dom status, as thousands of millionaires an dnear millionaires do.
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misteradventure



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: tax and online Reply with quote

I see the important words are in the discussion.

If one is domiciled in a country not their own, they are liable for taxes in that country. One should then study the tax treaties to determine to whom tax (if any) is owed. Some countries of origin do not tax income from outside the country if you do not live there; some countries do not tax income generated from outside the borders; some countries do not tax 'passive income' from investments, for example, but tax 'active income' from things like online work.

If one is resident in another country, but domiciled in their home country, then they pay taxes in their home country. (Most people have long-term residency visas and are thus 'domiciled' in the foreign country. The ESL teacher doing the 'border run' every X months is 'resident' as a tourist, but not legally domiciled there.

The way to get fraudulent organizations who are pocketing local taxes is to apply for residency on the basis of the contract.


That's how I understand it.
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