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k ladies! A few more clothing questions.
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lizziebennet



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: k ladies! A few more clothing questions. Reply with quote

I have a few more questions for the ladies!

Judging from previous posts it looks like I will definitely not be able to wear dress slacks in Al Ula.

I have a black flair skirt and a black office style pencil skirt which both go past my knees but not quite as far as my mid calf. Do you think these will be pushing it in Al Ula?

Other than that I have bought 3 ankle length bohemian skirts,
1 ankle length black skirt in a soft non creasable material and 3 cotten tailored shirts with sleeves longer than my elbows.
Hope that will be ok!

Also in Singapore I often wore pashmina type scarves because the aircon in the college classes was a bit cold at times. How would that go down in Saudi.

Are flat T strap silver sandals acceptable for work? I take it the brown leather gladiator style shoes with black straps would not be appropriate?

Unfortunately, I have plus size hips. Are Saudi woman as small as the Asians? Do they sell big sizes in Saudi? 16-18 or even 20 if it's a tight/ small cut?

As far as international brands go, Marks and Spencers and Dorethy Perkins have my size so I know they have some things but what about in the middle of nowhere...

Tops I can buy from everywhere no problem becaus I am quite small on top... pear shaped lol!
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a black flair skirt and a black office style pencil skirt which both go past my knees but not quite as far as my mid calf. Do you think these will be pushing it in Al Ula?


Depends on how strict your college is. Some will insist that you only wear loose skirts which are at least 3/4 length.

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Also in Singapore I often wore pashmina type scarves because the aircon in the college classes was a bit cold at times. How would that go down in Saudi.


It's a good idea - the AC can indeed be icy.

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Are flat T strap silver sandals acceptable for work? I take it the brown leather gladiator style shoes with black straps would not be appropriate?


Even places with strict dress codes aren't much bothered about shoes. Pretty much anything goes.

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Unfortunately, I have plus size hips. Are Saudi woman as small as the Asians? Do they sell big sizes in Saudi? 16-18 or even 20 if it's a tight/ small cut?


In general, Saudis are a bit shorter than European women, but they vary in size and shape as much as women everywhere. Some of your students will be tiny waif-like creatures, others will be fairly hefty.

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As far as international brands go, Marks and Spencers and Dorethy Perkins have my size so I know they have some things but what about in the middle of nowhere...


'Larger' friends of mine had no trouble shopping for clothes in Riyadh. In any case, even small towns should have at least a few tailors where you can have clothes made quickly and cheaply.
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lizziebennet



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In general, Saudis are a bit shorter than European women


Hah hah, I think I fall into that shorter range so that's ok!

You said that they prefer loose skirts so even calf length fitted pencil office style skirts may be a problem?

Thanks Cleo for your helpful answers.
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lucreziaborgia



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume the usual range of personal treatments are available such as
leg waxing, facials and massage. I'd be interested to know the price range just for comparison.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now... there is a question that I would be unable to answer for any country. Laughing

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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You said that they prefer loose skirts so even calf length fitted pencil office style skirts may be a problem?


Like I said, if it's too short or too tight, it may be a problem. You'll just have to try it out and ask your employers if it's OK.

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I assume the usual range of personal treatments are available such as
leg waxing, facials and massage.


I assume so too, but since I've never had any of these 'treatments' done in any country, I can't give many details!
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lizziebennet



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere recently that every Saudi woman gets her whole body waxed (everything except the hair on her head) just before the wedding night. Usually it is done by relatives so it doesn't seem to be an unfamiliar thing.

I am going to the beauticians on Friday just in case.

That is another thing they don't do in Korea... In fact some girls don't shave because they say only loose woman and hookers shave.

I heard that there won't be any personal trainers in Al Ula. I will probably be lucky if I have a gym... (I am still hoping the small uni campus will have a pool for the ladies). So have met with a trainer here and he has given me a program which I can do with a balls, dumbells and a normal mat at home.

I am hoping to buy that stuff in Riyadh before I head to Al Ula.

Anyone have any idea where you can get gym stuff for cheaper rates.
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BillCowher



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: clothing Reply with quote

Tops I can buy from everywhere no problem becaus I am quite small on top... pear shaped lol!
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You will find that Saudis are by no means small people. You will be able to buy any western size clothing as long as you are in a place with shops of any kind. There will be none of the size problems you may find in the Asian countries like Korea, Japan, Viet Nam, The Philippines or China.
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reneebcc



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Full-time abayas Reply with quote

Cleopatra wrote:
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You said that they prefer loose skirts so even calf length fitted pencil office style skirts may be a problem?


Like I said, if it's too short or too tight, it may be a problem. You'll just have to try it out and ask your employers if it's OK.

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I assume the usual range of personal treatments are available such as
leg waxing, facials and massage.


I assume so too, but since I've never had any of these 'treatments' done in any country, I can't give many details!


Would it be a problem if one just wanted to wear abayas the whole time? Personally, I wouldn't mind as it would adhere to the Saudi laws. Would employers be offended if you didn't take off the abaya at work? Confused
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would it be a problem if one just wanted to wear abayas the whole time? Personally, I wouldn't mind as it would adhere to the Saudi laws. Would employers be offended if you didn't take off the abaya at work?


This question has come up before - in fact I think there was a thread dedicated to it.

Basically, the answer is that the abaya is not considered professional attire in women-only environments.I don't know if employers would be 'offended' by it, but they would likely consider it sloppy and unprofessional. Students often leave their abayas on all day, but that does not mean that they would appreciate their teachers doing the same.
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lizziebennet



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tops I can buy from everywhere no problem becaus I am quite small on top... pear shaped lol!
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Sorry, TMI! I didn't mean it in any other way but to talk about clothing sizes.

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Would it be a problem if one just wanted to wear abayas the whole time? Personally, I wouldn't mind as it would adhere to the Saudi laws. Would employers be offended if you didn't take off the abaya at work?


That's the first thing I asked as I would be happy to wear an abaya to work but everyone immediately came back with the reply that that was a big no no. I still don't understand why? Would have saved me money Smile
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would be happy to wear an abaya to work but everyone immediately came back with the reply that that was a big no no. I still don't understand why


I dont' think it's a 'big no no', it's just that, as I said, it would be considered unprofessional and sloppy in a professional women-only environment. Put it this way: If you were in a university in the US or Europe, what would you think of a lecturer who gave classes in n his/her outdoor coat?
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lucreziaborgia



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well. I was interested in comparing prices with similar 'treatments' available in Vietnam. I refer to such as 'treatments' as that is how beauticians refer to them.
I suppose we could refer to them as 'processes'. The waxing process, how does that sound.
Or, a range of 'services'.
I am sitting around in Hanoi waiting for news about my future and these sorts of trivial indulgences occupy my time.
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lizziebennet



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am sitting around in Hanoi waiting for news about my future and these sorts of trivial indulgences occupy my time.


As you can see by my over 100 mostly trivial posts I too have been sitting around for more than a month now but Inshallah my visa will be affixed to my passport today.
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saharastars



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its considered very uncivilised not to de fuzz in the the ME, and I dont mean just shaving the fuzzy bits. Yes indeed the Brazillian was named that because I think it was a new thing intriduced to the colden west- its been going on the ME since time began.

I think that they aslo have an abhorance of anyone doing the defuzzing for them- if you are stuck- do have a look at how to make your own ME sugar wax at home ( yout tube) its straight forward, cheap eco friendly , quick, hygeinic and will save your blushes.
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