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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oubeijin wrote:
I've looked at most of the main webpages for jobs in Japan, and I'm thinking of attending a few job fairs to see whats out there. But are there other places I should consider?


Job fairs are a waste of time IMO. Japanese job boards run a close second.

In terms of a job search you don't sound like you're structuring the search very well. What do you want to do for work? Focus on two or three things that you want to do. Who are the employers for those roles? Visit their websites individually. Go from there. (If it's a non-Japanese company then target their home country website and search for jobs in Japan from that.)

If you want to go local, who can you put the word out to that you want to get a local job (without threatening your current one)? Again, same route from that point.

I just spent 3 minutes looking and came up with 5 jobs, Eg. Goldman Sachs has a (slightly above entry level) HR role open right now in Tokyo, and I can see two marketing jobs as well. I happen to know <ahem> those all start at Y4.5 million base. None of them ask for anything more than being able to function in a Jpns office environment: if you've been on JET for three years and have JLPT2 then you've more than met that criteria. Anyone that says different is talking out their.... colon. Smile

Japan. Is. A. Big. Economy. &. Has. Lots. Of. Opportunities. (Don't let anyone tell you differently)
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
Inflames wrote:
rxk22 wrote:

I thought the N2 was good enough to work for a lot of companies? Is that not true?


Not true at all - one would need a lot of help/simplification to get by in an office.


I disagree. In context, the person at N2 level should also have, by that point, a good functional command of Japanese. In my experience it's a good *indicator* and most people that have reached that level while in Japan are perfectly able to function in a Japanese work environment.


OK, was going to say. A lot of jobs only require the N2. Especially entry jobs. Translation and whatnot, yeah that takes N1, of course.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Cthulhu wrote:
oubeijin wrote:
I've looked at most of the main webpages for jobs in Japan, and I'm thinking of attending a few job fairs to see whats out there. But are there other places I should consider?


Job fairs are a waste of time IMO. Japanese job boards run a close second.

In terms of a job search you don't sound like you're structuring the search very well. What do you want to do for work? Focus on two or three things that you want to do. Who are the employers for those roles? Visit their websites individually. Go from there. (If it's a non-Japanese company then target their home country website and search for jobs in Japan from that.)

If you want to go local, who can you put the word out to that you want to get a local job (without threatening your current one)? Again, same route from that point.

I just spent 3 minutes looking and came up with 5 jobs, Eg. Goldman Sachs has a (slightly above entry level) HR role open right now in Tokyo, and I can see two marketing jobs as well. I happen to know <ahem> those all start at Y4.5 million base. None of them ask for anything more than being able to function in a Jpns office environment: if you've been on JET for three years and have JLPT2 then you've more than met that criteria. Anyone that says different is talking out their.... colon. Smile

Japan. Is. A. Big. Economy. &. Has. Lots. Of. Opportunities. (Don't let anyone tell you differently)


I feel as though we're talking about a different kind of workplace.

I've worked at senmon gakkos where we have some foreign students and someone who barely passed JLPT level 2 will have a difficult time finding work (most likely, they won't be able to find work at all). My experience is that JLPT level 1 isn't a requirement (most places will judge your Japanese in the interview and might even have you write an essay or, if it's translation, give you some passages to translate).

Someone might have a good functional command of Japanese at level 2 but this doesn't mean they can understand all of the details of their job in Japanese, nor does it mean they can interact with the customers or suppliers in Japanese. Working in a place where the primary language used is English will be OK, but I think it'll be a bit rough if everyone else only speaks Japanese.
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