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[flyingcolours]

5 thousand seems low while about 8 seems ok. 10 and above is golden - place and number of work hours aside these figures are pretty accurate.
No?

[7969]

[The Voice Of Reason]

Backed up 7969

Consider if you have to rent your apartment or if accomodation is included. If you have to pay for your own note that big cities are very generally quite a lot more expensive to rent. You may find you spend more in big cities because there's more to spend on, including more expensive restaurants and shops. The hours are important because it's that work / leisure balance thing. Some here don't need much money and prefer to have low working hours, while others would rather work 40 hours and have the higher wage. Some like the hustle and bustle of a huge city, others the attractions of smaller cities. Like 7969 said,

[7969]

Good evening sir

[The Voice Of Reason]

bonjour

[peewee1979]

Seems where you work is an important part of the equation. training school @ 40 hours a week? Uni doing 16 hours a week? Kindy doing ( who cares AHHH!), high school?

Pay and workplace are directly related.

You couldn't pay me 50k a month to work with little kids....

Hours of actual work are important. I teach 18 classes at 45 minutes a class. Can you calculate that vs someone working at a Mctraining school for 25 hours teaching and 15 hours being the monkey star?

[Shroob]

Like others have said, there's so many factors to consider and not everyone will prioritise the same ones.

I'd rather get paid 5,000 RMB and be happy, than 10,000 RMB and be miserable.

[johntpartee]

[The Great Wall of Whiner]

I'd rather be paid 10,000 a month, and be happy, than 5,000 a month and be happy.

[Zero]

I'd rather be paid 30,000 RMB a month, and be gloriously happy, and then get drunk.

[Non Sequitur]

I've just received my first job alert for 2012/2013 uni hiring season (Shandong).
(Is it my imagination but this seems an earlier start than in previous years?)
A low hours package although vague about some non classroom stuff.
Anyway.. RMB3600 to RMB6000 per month depending on qualifications and exp.
Clearly their isn't much upward movement in the provincial uni sector at least.

[The Great Wall of Whiner]

Chinese workers expect their salaries to double, and rightly so. The costs of living have more than doubled since I arrived here in the early 2000's. Workers just two years ago that were making 1700 RMB a month now expect to earn over 3000 RMB a month.

Whereas at one time there were line ups outside factories with people begging for these low-paying jobs, now the factory bosses are begging for workers.

Foreign teachers on the other hand, have always earned a 'decent enough' wage until recently. We should rightly be holding out for higher salaries, and not get sucked into the false magical story of "China is so cheap".

It is not.


Source:


http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/15/business/china-factory-jobs/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(PS)

The other magical extreme of course is Zero's dream, which we all would favour but sadly is seldom the case here (but can be).

[7969]

[choudoufu]

you can go ahead and hold out for that higher salary all you want.
unless you're extra especially special, you're NOT worth more.

plenty of bodies to fill the average seat-warming slot. if you don't
take the job, someone else will. supply 'n demand. supply
going up, demand going down.........wages stagnate.

most of these jobs (my opinion, i ain't got no source) are here
'cause the government demands students study engrish. they
put about as much thought into that requirement as they did
into the new social security tax regulations. in short, very little.

most of these jobs don't provide much of value, students are simply
punching their tickets, moving on to the next semester, re-learning
how to say 'apple' just to forget again during the holidays.

6k is a reasonable salary for 16 hours of chatting, with free apartment
and utilities, plus a free flight.

why do you think engrish teachers in general deserve more? do note....
"in general" is your average oral enrish teacher, excluding those
at international schools or teaching subject matter.

[7969]

that pretty much sums it up. Given the current state of the world economy I'm sure a lot of us are happy just to have a half decent job over here right now and for the foreseeable future.