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ptaza



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: male dependent? Reply with quote

Hi all,
I'm not a certified teacher so I won't be applying for any of the International jobs (ala AIS-R), but I was wondering if anyone has heard of a wife sponsoring her husband into the Kingdom to work at a school/university?

Thanks!
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: male dependent? Reply with quote

Hard to say. What education and experience do you and your spouse possess?
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ptaza



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul-
Well, I have the CELTA and three years teaching experience. My BA is in an unrelated field (there's no need for French, is there?). I know that these qualifications are on the very low end, but I've seen postings on Dave's that looked for those qualifications as a minimum. I also realise that this may also not be worth their while to allow a dependent to come along.


thanks
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't say what your husband's experience and education is, so I assume he doesn't have the minimum qualifications to teach and that you'd be supporting him. That's an issue. My understanding of the visa regulations is that he'll only be able to come on a 6-month visit visa and that's if you hold an iqama. My suggestion is to forego job hunting in the Mid East and instead, look at Asia, which seems like a better fit for your situation.
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ptaza



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the quick reply nomad soul,

My husband has a degree in Philosophy and a couple of teaching years under his belt; he could get a CELTA too, as we're looking at trying to get hired in late August/September.

We're currently in Asia. He works online (and we think that he'd be able to manage without needing any of the censored sites). We don't want him to work so he can progress more online.

I really want to go to back Saudi Arabia since that is where I was born and raised for 18 years. I haven't been able to go back now for years, as my family left the kingdom after the Riyadh bombings of 2003.

Thanks again
nomad soul


so has anyone heard of a female with her husband as a dependent at a job that I could obtain with my *paltry* qualifications? Embarassed

~ptaza
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cmp45



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want to look at Prince Sultan University in Riyadh. I have heard on the men's side that they also offer other language courses...such as Spanish and French depending on teacher availability so...quite possibly they may also have similar offerings on the women's side.

You should be able to apply with your meager credentials Wink ...albeit on a lower pay scale?
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ecocks



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check your PMs.
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ptaza



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks a lot ecocks and cmp45.

-ecocks, the spam filter caught me and I have yet to post the required five (mainly a lurker by nature, I suppose Smile)...but wanted to say I appreciate what you wrote

-cmp45, thanks for giving me a new lead. Riyadh is def where I'd want to be. I'll check into the women's side.

thanks again you both!

anyone else hear of any other women employed/men dependent tales?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ptaza wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply nomad soul,

My husband has a degree in Philosophy and a couple of teaching years under his belt; he could get a CELTA too, as we're looking at trying to get hired in late August/September. We're currently in Asia. He works online (and we think that he'd be able to manage without needing any of the censored sites). We don't want him to work so he can progress more online.

I really want to go to back Saudi Arabia since that is where I was born and raised for 18 years. I haven't been able to go back now for years, as my family left the kingdom after the Riyadh bombings of 2003. So has anyone heard of a female with her husband as a dependent at a job that I could obtain with my *paltry* qualifications? Embarassed

~ptaza

Here's some info, albeit from Sept. 2009, about women sponsoring spouses that somewhat fits your situation: http://complex-issue-of-single-status.notlong.com
It appears your only option is that your husband also get work in the Kingdom, which would entail getting a CELTA or equivalent TEFL cert before applying for teaching jobs. You say he works online and would like to continue to do so, but I think it will come down to both of you prioritizing what's important and possibly making some major decisions.
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ptaza



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a ton nomad soul
this is what i was fearing. doesn't make much sense to allow a female in a run of the mill job to 'wear the thobe' in the relationship Wink

thanks! we'll figure something out. *lucky my husband knows how important this is to me*

thanks everyone else!
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bounce



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a number of teachers in women's universities who successfully sponsor a male dependant - as long as you get a proper work visa I don't think it's an issue. You arrive first, get your iqama then apply for him to join you. If your employer doesn't provide work visas (i.e. you get a job through a dodgy agent and arrive with a business visit visa or similar) you may not be able to bring a dependant at all.

Direct hire from one of the better run private universities is a good bet. E.g. for Riyadh, Prince Sultan as cmp45 mentioned, Dar Ul Uloom and Al Yamamah Universities all have substantial women's sections. British Council also does proper visas / dependants. See what's being advertised and when you apply, ask for an explanation of how your husband can follow you and see what they say.
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