|
Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
|
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: Needs of a student. |
|
|
Hi,
I have currently started doing General English (pre /upper int) and have a student whose needs have changed. In April she is going to a medical conference in Switzerland and is representing her country. She has just done the communication course and got a very high score. She wants more speaking and listening, this is a very small component of this course.
I feel she needs a specialised course since her immediate goal is being able to speak a the conference. Her speaking is pretty good. There are only two native teachers here and our workload is pretty high to do anything extra without dropping other classes.
Any ideas would be great, links etc
Thanks.
Ps. Why do students want to speak like a native and think it can happen in 39hrs.  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
|
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
In the next 39 hours I would work with language specific to this student's job; have them describe exactly what they do, have them practice their presentation (if they have one), ask them a lot of open-ended questions about their job, and so forth. Then pat them on the back and wish them luck. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
|
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Is she presenting (oral talk, or poster) or is she just being a part of the audience?
Does she expect to have to make small talk with other participants (in the hallway, at a banquet, elsewhere) or perhaps with sales people?
Find out. I deal with science students who go to conferences, and they struggle like hell to do anything, despite their advisors' insistence to learn how.
Listening will improve only after a long time and with extensive practice. Depending on your student's ability, I'd suggest trying either Randall's language lab http://www.esl-lab.com/ or the Voice of America Special English recordings (with scripts) http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/ .
Meanwhile, I get the impression that you might not feel confident/competent to handle the jargon she might have to use. It may still be possible to get her over the first hump of introduction jitters:
name
work place
department name
job title / specialty
Once you teach some basic expressions for these plus a few simple things like handshake, eye contact, and how to interrupt a conversation to say hi, it's all going to depend on the situation she's in (which is why I asked my initial questions). |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
|
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject: |
|
|
jpvanderwerf2001 wrote: |
In the next 39 hours I would work with language specific to this student's job; have them describe exactly what they do, have them practice their presentation (if they have one), ask them a lot of open-ended questions about their job, and so forth. Then pat them on the back and wish them luck. |
Thanks for that ,will give it a go. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
|
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Is she Turkish, microbabe? If so, I doubt she'll stumble over the basics of personal/professional introductions or anything like that. It'll be more complex stuff that might hang her up a bit.
In addition to what jpvan. has noted, I'd possibly go over some clarification techniques she can use just in case she finds herself not understanding what someone else has said. Asking for restatement (could you repeat), clarification (could you clarify this term) and repeating the key information (so, if I understand correctly, you've said....) can be really useful, particularly as I imagine she will be dealing with a very international group involving all sorts of accents! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
microbabe
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 115
|
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Glenski wrote: |
Is she presenting (oral talk, or poster) or is she just being a part of the audience?
Does she expect to have to make small talk with other participants (in the hallway, at a banquet, elsewhere) or perhaps with sales people?
Find out. I deal with science students who go to conferences, and they struggle like hell to do anything, despite their advisors' insistence to learn how.
Listening will improve only after a long time and with extensive practice. Depending on your student's ability, I'd suggest trying either Randall's language lab http://www.esl-lab.com/ or the Voice of America Special English recordings (with scripts) http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/ .
Meanwhile, I get the impression that you might not feel confident/competent to handle the jargon she might have to use. It may still be possible to get her over the first hump of introduction jitters:
name
work place
department name
job title / specialty
Once you teach some basic expressions for these plus a few simple things like handshake, eye contact, and how to interrupt a conversation to say hi, it's all going to depend on the situation she's in (which is why I asked my initial questions). |
Thanks for that Glenski. I have worked with people in the past who have done presentations/ conferences. So I am happy with that. I think the bottom line is she in in the wrong class. We have two books to cover in 39 hrs and the material is not relevant for needs just now. She needs more specific help. I might be able to give her a few 1:1 classes later on.
Will get more info from her and see what happens.
Thanks for your info. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling. Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|