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Raide



Joined: 28 Feb 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:22 am    Post subject: Looking for some advice. Reply with quote

Hello all,

A little background just to start things off. I came to Tokyo in October 2011, managed to land a job with a very nice company as an English Trainer. They offered to do all the sponsorship stuff and then I waited. Immigration took ages and ages and finally in mid Feb 2012, I got a rejection letter from them.

Now I have to look at heading back on April 1st.

The reasons for rejection were No Degree and No experience but the company offered me a job knowing all this and they preferred to hire me based upon my previous Sales, Customer Support and Management abilities.

Now I am left with a few choices.

Spend 2+ years getting a degree, then attempt again?
Get a TESOL/TEFL qualification and get experience?
Find a prospective employer that is more based around my skill-set?

As a side question, is it possible to apply for a VISA without having a job lined up? Wondering if I should aim at a different type of VISA that might actually stand a chance of getting accepted.

Thanks all!
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty ignorant of that company to not know even the most basic requirement for a work visa. The only way to get one without a degree is to have years of experience.

No, you cannot get a work visa if you aren't hired, so you're going to have to get that degree. A TESOL/TEFL cert will not cut it alone.
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funkyging



Joined: 06 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could work in china without a TESOL/TEFL and degree but they pay would be substandard maily due to the goverment being so corrupt in terms of "if you have the money or contacts you can do what you want" I know a guy whos going to work the company i was with he had no degree, no teaching expereince and was 19 they company were going to pay him 2000 RMB which is basically the aerage chinese minimum wage when foreign teachers are usually earning 8000 +

I think this is a china thing though as its such a vast market
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OneJoelFifty



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
Posts: 463

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Glenski said. You'd have to provide some documentation showing that you have experience (I think two years?) teaching back home.
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Mr_Monkey



Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Location: Kyuuuuuushuuuuuuu

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was three years, last I heard.
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