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Isla Guapa



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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tretyakovskii wrote:
Guapa, the reality is that it is hot there, but it rarely gets above 35, and you tend to stay out of the heat, midday. As you say, it's not for everyone....

Asian Fever is the explanation that is given for those who go to SE Asia and disappear into a life they never experienced before, one they find enticing mainly for its comforts. Thai food is exceptional, and readily available on the streets, where you eat in the open air; Thai people believe nothing is worth doing that you cannot have fun with, including work; Thai people smile at others, almost all the time; Thai women are among the friendliest in the world, which can hold an attraction for some; and, professional massages done in comfortable surroundings are very affordable (I paid $6 USD for a two hour massage, Hat Yai, Thailand), making three times a week massages a possibility, even on a modest budget.

But, working in Thailand is a mixed bag; and, social unrest, leading to violent public clashes is a factor in life there now, unfortunately.


Anything above 30�C. is far too hot for me, especially in a humid tropical country like Thailand! Thai food is great, at least the versions of it I've enjoyed in the States, though I can't deal with lots of chile, even here in Mexico. The "friendliness" of the women would do nothing for me, since I'm a strongly heterosexual female. Going all that way for an inexpensive massage seems rather silly, but that's just me. I think I�ll stay in Mexico City, but thanks for the cultural analysis!
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Tretyakovskii



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Location: Cancun, Mexico

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexico works for me, too, Guapa! I was really impressed by everything I saw at our winter trip through central Mexico, and a four day visit to Mexico City. As a big city person, myself, that place has a lot of appeal.
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EFLeducator



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enchilada Potosina wrote:
Stay in Thailand unless it is your dream to live in el df as it will involve sacrifices.


Prof.Gringo wrote:
Best advice you could get!


Right!

Prof.Gringo wrote:
Pretty much all the lingo schools pay peanuts with little or no advancement possibilities in Mexico (If one only plans to stay for a year or less, no big deal). You will be treated poorly, poorly paid, replaced in a second, and have no job security.


Prof.Gringo wrote:
Outside of teaching in language mills or biz classes where you travel around the city all day, there are some decent jobs teaching kids/teens in colegios but they will want you to commit to a full school year, then again since turn-over is high in these schools as well, you can find work easily around the Xmas break.
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Tretyakovskii



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Location: Cancun, Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFL Educator, it seems to me the OP had an unusually cushy posting in Thailand: her experience would not be what I would describe as typical there, though many make a go of it, eventually, just as they do here.

To get a better picture of what I'm talking about, read the Thailand forum of Dave's ESL.

When people make a go of it, anywhere, they have something to be proud of: Mexico is no exception to that rule. The important thing is, come with some financial reserves, some zest for living, some talent for teaching and, with time, you can discover the hidden opportunities, and cultivate those not so well hidden.
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ozgurl



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a cushy job, but not particularly. Just a language school (or "Mill" as some working in high schools would dismiss them). But it was also a teacher training center, so they had to try harder than usual.
Here is what jobs in Mexico (and Peru actually) can't compete with:
There were no spilt shifts. Travel was rare, paid for, and even transport provided. Management really supportive and worked hard to make schedules work. A big, comfy teacher room with loads of resources, a fridge, toaster oven, microwave, water, computers and a crew of awesome teachers to suggest an activity to make your lesson great. No limits on photocopying (and noone ever abused it) Good admin staff who ran things smoothly and dealt with student problems so that the teacher coordinators/director didnt have to handle too much of it, and so had time for teachers. There were clear policies school wide that dealt with absences/lateness so that teachers didnt have to deal with that stuff alone. Iwas able to branch out and tecah special courses and learn more. New teachers were assigned mentrs fr a month and were actually paid to meet with said mentors. Assessment was only a rough cull of the students who shouldnt be there, was run by dedicated staff (no marking exams) and was fair - no teaching to the test. Some studnets failed the test (GASP!). The students had a great sense of fun and it would make my day to give them a task that they liked. If I didnt do a good job one day, they forgave me and we could start fresh the next. I could go on and on. Obviously there were bad days and hassle moments. Nothing is perfect.
The proof of the pudding is that I am going back. I also really like 5USD pedicures, 10USD massages, a pronounced sense of safety and politeness (no weird noises at women), 1USD meals, nice condos and blah blah blah blah.
Sorry Mexico. I really like you but I'm leaving you for my ex.
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EFLeducator



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ozgurl wrote:
Here is what jobs in Mexico can't compete with:

There were no spilt shifts. Travel was rare, paid for, and even transport provided
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All I can say is...WOW! THAT is how employees SHOULD be treated. What an EXCELLENT country you were working in. Glad to hear you're going back. Right move!!

ozgurl wrote:
A big, comfy teacher room with loads of resources, a fridge, toaster oven, microwave, water, computers and a crew of awesome teachers.


ozgurl wrote:
New teachers were assigned mentrs fr a month and were actually paid to meet with said mentors.


That's how it SHOULD be. Employees SHOULD get RESPECT not excuses.

ozgurl wrote:
The proof of the pudding is that I am going back. I also really like 5USD pedicures, 10USD massages, a pronounced sense of safety and politeness (no weird noises at women), 1USD meals, nice condos and blah blah blah blah.


It sounds like a place where teachers get the RESPECT they DESERVE.

ozgurl wrote:
Sorry Mexico. I really like you but I'm leaving you for my ex.


WISE decision. Enjoy yourself my fellow TEFLer!! It sounds like you're going back to the modern day Garden of Eden for TEFLer's. Nice. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If additional postings have to be deleted because they were derailing and/or off topic, there will be severe sanctions.

As I warned previously, pursuing personal agendas and repeating one's mantra again and again here are not the things to do if one intends to remain active on this board.
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spanglish



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful ozgurl - you're startin' to make me hate on Latin America with all your talk of comfy staff rooms, unlimited photocopies and machismo-free streets. Ah well...I've got it good here, real good, but still....
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Tretyakovskii



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you get too distressed, read Dave�s Thailand forum, you�ll find her experience far from typical.
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boomerexpat



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tretyakovskii wrote:
Before you get too distressed, read Dave�s Thailand forum, you�ll find her experience far from typical.


Precisely. Thailand is considered by many teachers here as a lousy place to teach English but one people put up with because Thailand can be a great place to live.

Split shifts and bad pay (or insufficient given the cost of living) are the norm especially when you are starting out. The bulk of schools pay the same they apparently paid 10 years ago in spite of the increase in cost of living.

I live here and overall really like it but find myself torn between staying and going. As the Clash sang: should I stay or should I go.
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