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Too Old or "Too Experienced" for Vietnam?
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Mattingly



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

inhanoi wrote:
On the other hand, there IS an influx of talented, qualified people here, due to the poor economies in 'the West.' I welcome these folks. They are 'upping the game.' The illegal WP gang should indeed feel threatened by them. My fellow teachers are SO much more professional and serious now than the people who were here just a few years ago.


inhanoi,

I agree that today there is a lot more professionalism than just a short time ago.

I too, feel this is a good thing. I want the bar raised. It's better for everyone: teachers, students, and parents.

However.....more and more teachers competing for a limited number of teaching positions results is stagnant and declining wages.
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LettersAthruZ



Joined: 25 Apr 2010
Posts: 466
Location: North Viet Nam

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mad Hatter wrote:
I'm sorry, I may have read you wrongly:

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Me?? I'm blessed!!

I have a residence permit/work permit and I Freelance/independent contract! Got them through having "...a good relationship...." with those high up in The Powers That Be!

Don't know if there ISN'T really anything wacky about taking a work permit from an established big-name school/centre.....you then put yourself forward for dealing with a LOT of bulls--t.....things like being at the mercy of an unscrupulous Director, LOSING said work permit when you quit or are made redundant or you got the ax because it RIDES WITH THE EMPLOYER, not the teacher, putting up with deceptive T�y in your workplace acting as shills for management on ESL sites in order to earn a buck more an hour, etc. etc. and a lot of instructors really don't want to have to deal with that kind of rubbish!


So, you freelance?

Who, therefore, has submitted their Business licence and stamped Form 4 of their application to have you as an employee? This, as you know, is a necessary part of the WP procedure. I find it difficult to reconcile freelance with WP.

What are the letters on your WP, are they SHN or SCHM, or, in fact the dubious letters of NHa Trang.

I think some things are best left unsaid.

I apologise once more. People reading this forum may get the impression that some posters are above the law and consequently that is the status quo, the modus operandi of the successful esl teacher.

It's not!


I understand, Hats!

Larger centres and schools, such as whichever one you represent the interests of, generally detest freelancers......

......hell - I too would despise something/somebody with whom I couldn't compete with in terms of cranking out a quality product!

This conversation really isn't going anywhere.......I'm out of this thread.
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inhanoi



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"...with whom I couldn't compete with." LOL
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The Mad Hatter



Joined: 16 May 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll repeat an earlier question, try to clear-up a misconception, and ask for clarification on a baffling statement.

What do you teach LAZ?

I don't teach English at a larger centre or school, total enrollment at my school is around 70.

Why would anyone detest a freelancer?

Back to the OP: don't be put off by all this smokescreening, if you've got the goods and feel you're ready for an interesting challenge, age will not be drawback. Teaching privates is a great way to supplement your income and I would highly recommend it. Good luck.
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