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rainbowprof
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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:26 am Post subject: references and referees |
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| Is it common for employers to contact referees and check references in Saudi? Do many of you have experience where your employer contacted the person or people who wrote your references? If so, what did they ask? |
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Imdramayu
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Be careful with who you choose as your reference from your previous employer. Ideally, you should use your boss or person you reported to. My friend did that and got burnt. So, I always use anyone who technically my superiour at any point of time when I worked there.
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Seems common sense that you choose to list references that will say something good about you. You never know whether jobs will actually contact them or not. Always assume that they will...
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rainbowprof
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| sound advice. Wish I could read the minds of those that gave me references. Some people are so petty that they begrudge the thought that another may be moving on to something better and leaving them behind. |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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In Saudi, every time I left, I'd ask the director of the language center at the IPA for a "letter of reference."
They all responded: "You write it; I'll sign it."
Well, it was hard to be humble - so, I never was.  .
Regards,
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rainbowprof
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| johnslat wrote: |
In Saudi, every time I left, I'd ask the director of the language center at the IPA for a "letter of reference."
They all responded: "You write it; I'll sign it."
Well, it was hard to be humble - so, I never was. .
Regards,
John |
Yes, I have so many of those. But can we trust the guy that signed it to describe us equally glowingly.  |
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johnslat
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Dear rainbowprof,
Well, that will depend entirely upon your writing skill .
Regards,
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rainbowprof
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent point. I've been weighing in on that exact issue. Looks like I should open a new gmail account or 3 
I know there's at least one person that will supports me unfailingly. |
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casio
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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People who you can count on to speak highly of you are the people you want to keep on your Christmas (or whatever holiday) cards list. I usually accept iTunes vouchers in return for kind words!!  |
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Imdramayu
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: Who to trust? |
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Who does one use as their reference form the previous employer? How important is it to use one's direct boss? What if one is not too sure about how their ex-boss will say when asked to write a direct reference to the new company that you are a candidate for?
Would using a lower person who technically wasn't your boss but was in a higher position than you be OK?
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rainbowprof
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