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Evaluation System for Foreign Language Expert
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xiguagua



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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. I get a little tired of hearing how EVERYTHING came from China and China invented everything, and China was the first to do everything, and blah blah blah. My favorite is when students that have never even left their farming hometowns talk about how much better China is than other countries. Yeah, life really couldn't be any better than waddling around knee-high in mud and garbage.

The whole test is just ridiculous. But it makes me wonder if anyone's failed it, or not been issued the FEC, or something.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've wondered the same thing. Even when I failed the multiple choice part, my essay score gave me a 60% average for the test, so I passed (barely). (The FAO said he was told [by whom, I don't know] that I did well on the test, so maybe just having the necessary motor skills to fill the damn thing out.......)
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Simon in Suzhou



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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

check your PM
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scholar



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would this testing be required for people looking to volunteer in China? I am looking to do volunteer work in China as an English teacher. Hopefully I can help children who come from underprivileged homes. Would my qualifications and evaluation need to be the same as for paid work?
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scholar wrote:
Would this testing be required for people looking to volunteer in China? I am looking to do volunteer work in China as an English teacher. Hopefully I can help children who come from underprivileged homes. Would my qualifications and evaluation need to be the same as for paid work?


Thanks for the laugh.
How much longer do you plan to keep playing this game with us ?
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scholar wrote:
Would this testing be required for people looking to volunteer in China? I am looking to do volunteer work in China as an English teacher. Hopefully I can help children who come from underprivileged homes. Would my qualifications and evaluation need to be the same as for paid work?


They would have to be better.
A PhD minimum plus fluency in Cantonese and Mandarin.
If you've taken holy orders with or without a celibacy and/or obediency vow that would get you to the front of the queue.
No guarantees though!
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scholar



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure what some of the posters are on about, but to anyone who wants to respond seriously, yes, I am interested in volunteering and would like to know what the requirements are. I have a strong interest in multicultural studies and in learning about different social, political and ethnic groups. I hold a degree from one of the most respected U.S. universities. I want to go overseas and learn more about other cultures before going back to the U.S. and getting into a responsible position with the UNESCO or other prestigious organizations. If anyone knows the visa and evaluation requirements, I would appreciate your sharing.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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would like to know what the requirements are


1. Caucasian (or a reasonable facsimile thereof)

2. Breathing


I'm being serious.

As far as the visa requirements, I'm not sure, but I think you need an F visa.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scholar wrote:
Would this testing be required for people looking to volunteer in China? I am looking to do volunteer work in China as an English teacher. Hopefully I can help children who come from underprivileged homes. Would my qualifications and evaluation need to be the same as for paid work?


No, requirements for volunteer work, as far as I know, do not exceed the requirements for paid work because volunteer work is largely an illusion.

I think some of the sarcasm derives from the fact that many if not all 'volunteer' positions in China are scams. An agent receives the teacher's pay and works the teacher to death with as many hours as possible, most likely at different schools. Said teacher works their ass off while the Chinese agent keeps the pay. You can see that this is a great deal for everyone except the teacher. You can imagine the agent would be very kind to you - until you figure out what's happening.

Maybe you should just find a paying position? Oh, and by the way, don't pay any money up front for any position; that's just another scam.

You seem like a gentleman with a good heart. I recommend you spend some time learning that you may avoid the shadier side of this culture.

Just my opinion ...
G Cool

On topic - one uni I applied at required the test, for what that's worth.
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TexasHighway



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scholar wrote:
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I am interested in volunteering and would like to know what the requirements are. I have a strong interest in multicultural studies and in learning about different social, political and ethnic groups
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Though I admire your idealism, the previous posters are just trying to bring you down to earth. Instead of volunteering, I would suggest collecting a regular salary and then donating it to a reputable charity. Otherwise, it is highly probable that while you are working for nothing, an unscrupulous program administrator is pocketing the money that rightfully belongs to you. For more specifics as far as visa requirements and whether or not this evaluation is necessary, I would suggest you start another thread.
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was asked to take the test and I took it.
It does not seem to be a battle worth fighting, IMHO.

I did make sure that I scored highly in all categories, "foreigner pride" I guess.



More info can be found here :

http://middlekingdomlife.com/guide/evaluation-system-for-foreign-language-expert.htm
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scholar



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help everyone. I am a pretty good judge of what's a scam and what's genuine, so I should be able to make that determination and avoid trouble pretty easily, but thanks for the concern. I have a very strong educational and work background, so I am giving up a lot to go to China. I know that most people are not in that situation. But I think it will be worth it in terms of a multicultural experience that will apply to future endeavors. And in my position, I really cannot see taking money out of a developing country. I realize that many would not have a choice about that, though.
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Join the Peace Corps. You'll feel better about yourself. Really.

Good luck.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Join the Peace Corps


Perfect.
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Ariadne



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scholar, unless you have experience in China... and even if you do... it's not always that easy to spot the scams. Don't assume that the signs you know to look for will be applicable here. The saying, "This Is China" gains more and more meaning the longer you're here. Not to discourage you from donating your time and talents, you will likely find a spot and have a meaningful year teaching. Just keep in mind that China isn't your average developing nation.

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