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Cost of living in Zhongshan?
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ESL.Professor.Roger



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Cost of living in Zhongshan? Reply with quote
It looks very like I will be accepting an offer to teach at the Bond Institute here, but had some questions I'm hoping the forum will be able to help me with:

The apartment is supplied, but I will need to pay utilities. Can someone give me an idea of what I might fork over for electric, water, sewer, trash and other "standard" utilities?

And what is the Internet situation: how much can I expect to pay for installation / monthly charges for how fast a connection?

And finally, speaking of Internet: what is the situation with filtering? Is there a list somewhere where sites that are firewalled are documented? Or is it on a country-by-country of orign basis?

ETA: Any current feedback from anyone working / having worked at Bond is also welcome...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Cost of living in Zhongshan? Reply with quote
ESL.Professor.Roger wrote:
It looks very like I will be accepting an offer to teach at the Bond Institute here, but had some questions I'm hoping the forum will be able to help me with:

The apartment is supplied, but I will need to pay utilities. Can someone give me an idea of what I might fork over for electric, water, sewer, trash and other "standard" utilities?

And what is the Internet situation: how much can I expect to pay for installation / monthly charges for how fast a connection?

And finally, speaking of Internet: what is the situation with filtering? Is there a list somewhere where sites that are firewalled are documented? Or is it on a country-by-country of orign basis?

ETA: Any current feedback from anyone working / having worked at Bond is also welcome...


your first name is Roger? please tell me your last name is Moore because you accepted a job at the Bond Institute. Laughing
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Don't forget cost of Martinis (shaken or stirred).
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ESL.Professor.Roger



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry, folks -- that joke was barely worth *one* ping.

One ping only. Rolling Eyes
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Could you ask Q to develop a dry-erase marker that lasts longer than 10 minutes?
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of living in Zhongshan? Reply with quote
ESL.Professor.Roger wrote:
The apartment is supplied, but I will need to pay utilities. Can someone give me an idea of what I might fork over for electric, water, sewer, trash and other "standard" utilities?


Depends on usage, but I would expect a couple hundred a month at least. I would be expecting to pay 100-300 RMB per month on electricity depending on how much you use the AC. Water maybe 20 RMB per month, gas varies depending on how much you cook but is very cheap. I have not idea how much apartment maintenace fees are for services like trash I am afraid. (also worth nothing these are prices for where I am, might be more expensive where you will be)

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And what is the Internet situation: how much can I expect to pay for installation / monthly charges for how fast a connection?

And finally, speaking of Internet: what is the situation with filtering? Is there a list somewhere where sites that are firewalled are documented? Or is it on a country-by-country of orign basis?


Internet is also relatively cheap; depending on your connection speed can range from 800 - 2,500 RMB a year.

As for what is blocked, this list covers the most commonly sought out sites. Am sure there are a lot more, and things also vary by region here it seems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of living in Zhongshan? Reply with quote
dean_a_jones wrote:
As for what is blocked, this list covers the most commonly sought out sites. Am sure there are a lot more, and things also vary by region here it seems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China

You can add the list of whats blocked in China to the list of blocked sites in China Laughing

I just tried it and got the "problem loading page" message. Wikipedia always works for me but that one site in particular doesn't. For obvious reasons. Then again, it'll be different in different areas and later today it might work for me.
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah it seems to be, I had to use a web based proxy to check it first. I think the OP is out of China though, given the question itself.
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ESL.Professor.Roger



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of living in Zhongshan? Reply with quote
dean_a_jones wrote:

Depends on usage, but I would expect a couple hundred a month at least. I would be expecting to pay 100-300 RMB per month on electricity depending on how much you use the AC. Water maybe 20 RMB per month, gas varies depending on how much you cook but is very cheap. I have not idea how much apartment maintenace fees are for services like trash I am afraid. (also worth nothing these are prices for where I am, might be more expensive where you will be)

Internet is also relatively cheap; depending on your connection speed can range from 800 - 2,500 RMB a year.

As for what is blocked, this list covers the most commonly sought out sites. Am sure there are a lot more, and things also vary by region here it seems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_the_People's_Republic_of_China

Excellent! Great info, thanks. Wouldn't have thought of checking Wiki for this info.

Turns out I know a guy on another, more general forum site who is an ex-pat who has lived and worked about an hour from Zhongshan for decades. I posted much the same question there , but got more technical in terms of how I had intended to get around it and he confirms that a State's-based VPN is the preferred solution, and that I would not have to worry over-much about encrypting or the anonymous proxy chain I had proposed. He reports that the Great Firewall of China is aimed more at natives than foreign workers so I am unlikely to run afoul of the powers that be doing it that way.
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