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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: Your experience with teaching children |
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For those of you who have taught children (K-6), do you have any advice, tips, resources, books, etc.? My degree (TESL-related) was for adult education and only a few courses for children, but I would like to teach private lessons to children instead. My target audience is francophone who start 1-3x a week lessons in kindergarten. Going back to university is not an option at this time (I have my own kid with baby on the way).
Are there any books that specifically address private lesson for K-6 (or K-7) ? I have a good one from a university class (Vale, if I remember) but would like more resources. |
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LongShiKong
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 1082 Location: China
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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With just under 2000 posts, the Elementary Education Forum is one of the more active Teachers' Forums. Also check out the Activities & Games forum.
You reminded me of my intention to run a poll to test Spiral78s assertion that the vast majority of TEFLers teach adults. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't say that the 'vast majority' of TEFLers everywhere teach adults.
However, I will dispute the notion that the 'vast majority' of TEFLers in North America and Europe teach children.
I would agree that more TEFL training programmes should be available that focus on children, but I still think that the adult-student focused training is the standard for good reason; in many parts of the world, adults are the majority. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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I'll second that. Try to stay away from the little people as much as possible - little brats keep hiding my bottles! |
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santi84
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link, I will be browsing it today.
In my degree, we focused on grammar, educational theory, and didn't have any exposure to teaching children until the 4th year (which was basically too late). Here in Canada, TESL certification requires all your hours and observed teaching to be for over 18 only (a month full-time teaching for my particular program). So, even if you want to teach children, you need to teach adults to be TESL Canada certified. If you want to teach children, you are supposed to have done a BEd in TESL in the first place (which I didn't realize until my 4th year, DOH!) |
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Expat101
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Teaching children privately and teaching adults in a classroom setting are completely different animals. A CELTA course focusing on adults can in no way prepare you for teaching English privately to children!
The most important factor involved in tutoring children are the parents. That's right, the parents. It's extremely important to establish tight bonds with them as it is a three-way partnership. While I have had excellent relationships with most of the parents, I have recently had a new 'difficult parent.' These kinds of parents are time consuming and cause many teachers to quit teaching altogether (after they have desperately gone out of their way to please them). Do a Google search about it! There is no teacher training class in the world that can prepare you well enough for dealing these nightmares!
As for the mechanics of teaching the children privately, you have to look at yourself as a unique mini-school where you must buy appropriate materials and make copies yourself. Don't expect the students or parents to provide them! Go to bookstores, stationary shops, youtube and the internet.
Expect cancellations.........................at the very last minute!
Tutoring children privately can be the most rewarding experience there is in TESOL. Beware though, it can also be the most frustrating. |
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littlelauren86
Joined: 20 Sep 2011 Posts: 94 Location: Korea
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The most important factor involved in tutoring children are the parents. That's right, the parents. It's extremely important to establish tight bonds with them as it is a three-way partnership. While I have had excellent relationships with most of the parents, I have recently had a new 'difficult parent.' These kinds of parents are time consuming and cause many teachers to quit teaching altogether (after they have desperately gone out of their way to please them). Do a Google search about it! There is no teacher training class in the world that can prepare you well enough for dealing these nightmares! Evil or Very Mad
As for the mechanics of teaching the children privately, you have to look at yourself as a unique mini-school where you must buy appropriate materials and make copies yourself. Don't expect the students or parents to provide them! Go to bookstores, stationary shops, youtube and the internet. |
Whoops, sounds challenging. I pretty much came here to ask the same thing.
I've taught EFL to children in Korea for a couple of years. It's definitely a bit different because it was always in a classroom setting and I've never had to deal with the parents due to the language barrier.
I taught my first private class with a young girl about 8 and thank god this is really just conversation. The parents hired me to just "talk to her" before she travels to the USA. I've advertised for private and it seems that parents are contacting me, so I'm not sure if it's something I should avoid, or charge extra for, or what. |
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LongShiKong
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 1082 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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...parents hired me to just "talk to her" before she travels to the USA. |
These short-term 'VIP' one-to-one classes are increasingly common here in China as more and more go overseas. However, few are capable of 'just talking' and need far more time and structured practice to get to that point--let alone acquiring basic survival language. |
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Expat101
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Most of my private students are expats from Korea who come from very wealthy backgrounds. I don't know why it is, but wherever I seem to go in this big world, Koreans tend to follow and find me. I'm not complaining. Maybe I'm a magnet!
I would caution against accepting privates from parents who say they just want you to talk to their children. They will soon be bored of this and complain about all sorts of things. These are the kinds of parents who tend to be 'difficult' because they don't have a clear idea as to what they expect from a private tutor.
The kind of students you want are the ones whose parents are determined to see their children do very well and they are not hurting for money. When they see their children do well with you, they will refer you to others. You never know what to expect. For example, this morning I got a call at about 8am from a very busy father who wanted to know if I could go to his daughter's international school to meet with her homeroom teacher and curriculum coordinator to go over her reading comprehension issues and go through a tutorial myself along with other private tutors who will also be attending. This is professional development! I consider it a opportunity to better myself as a tutor and hopefully get referred to when other students at this school are in need of private tutors.
This is a whole different kind of game than working for an employer. You really have to be an entrepreneur in your heart of hearts with a serious passion for teaching to make this work. Avoid 'difficult' parents if you care about your sanity. Just don't deal with them - it's not worth it. There's a world of other great parents out there who will be supportive and appreciate your hard work. |
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LongShiKong
Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 1082 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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santi84 wrote: |
Are there any books that specifically address private lesson for K-6 (or K-7) ?
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Good question? If you find one, let me know. I want to start teaching groups of kids on my own in September.
I have an ebook on tutoring one to one:
Teaching English one to one (McGraw-Hill's Teach Yourself Series)
...and some on teaching children:
Teaching English To Children (Longman Keys to Language Teaching)
Young Learners (Oxford Resource Books for Teachers)
Practical English Language Teaching - Young Learners (also from McGraw-Hill)
How to teach English to very young children
The children's private schools I've worked for here in China (what about elsewhere???) sadly ignore what students (need to) learn in their public schools. They're too focused on teaching their set curriculum. In my first year at such a school, we had a drunken parent come in upset about his daughter's poor performance on her public school's English test. What were we to tell him?
At this school too, no one seems interested in the suggestion I made about cross-referencing language students did/will learn in public school with what we teach--if we provided parents with a passive/active ratio of language they'd already studied in their public schools during placement tests and subsequently reported on improvements in this, we'd have happier parents, but no, that makes too much sense. In this province, students all use the same series in primary schools making the task easy to do.
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The most important factor involved in tutoring children are the parents.
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This highlights the importance of doing a thorough needs analysis: what do the parents want specifically for their child. Before you tell them how you intend to teach and how you'll report on progress toward fulfilling a realistic expectation, get them to state as clearly as possible what they want for their child AND WHY and make note of this however unrealistic that may be. You'll also need to assess the child's attitude toward the parent's wishes and to English in general through your own (subsequent) observations and asking the parents and ideally, through a 3rd party such as the student's (English) teacher. You may need to spend far more effort on improving the child's self-efficacy (which requires L1 mastery) than on English. Attitude is everything. |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 1317 Location: under da sea
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone for the tips, links, and titles. I will respond tomorrow to each of you in detail (trying to make dinner, entertain a 2 year old, and sneak in a little post here!!!).
My students will be French Canadian children who have a lot more exposure to English than typical ESL students, due to television and being surrounded by English Canada and the US. Most parents are functionally bilingual but there is a huge pressure on these kids to become fully bilingual in order to succeed in university and in business. Few jobs in Montreal will hire uni-lingual francophones. Interestingly enough, the parents themselves aren't so bad in terms of pressure (at least compared to the Asian parents I have dealt with), but I suppose those who are, will be my customers  |
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LongShiKong
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:45 am Post subject: |
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How much can we attribute these parental issues Expat101 warns about to teachers' lack of familiarity with L1 and C1 (culture1)? I'd never dream of going out on my own without a proficiency in Chinese.
I presume your fluent in French, Santi? |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:44 am Post subject: |
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Both Oxford University press and Cambridge University press have excellent resource material for teachers.
If you plan to make an occupation out of it (rather than a hobby for a homemaker) then you might want to add a YL cert to your TESL or look into an ECE certificate.
When teaching young ones the keys to remember are: action, activity, sight, sound, color. TPR is your buddy followed by craft based task based learning. Vocalize everything you do (all your actions and actives). Young learners will acquire language differently than older learners who actively "learn" language.
The focus is on comprehensible input and a no-stress learning environment. They will start to talk when they are ready. Do not expect language production the same as you would in an older learner class.
Songs (with actions to match) are a good start with ages 3-7 followed by other activities where they listen and do rather than listen and repeat.
Nothing happens in a rush (6 months is not unusual) but when they start to produce language output they will quickly catch up to their peers with age appropriate language abilities.
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LongShiKong
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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tttompatz wrote: |
Vocalize everything you do (all your actions and actives). |
I'd add: Visualize everything you do (providing visuals through gestures or images to avoid L1) |
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santi84
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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First, I appreciate all the great responses. Took me a while to get back sorry, yesterday was my 2 year old's birthday. What a zoo.
Anyways...
Expat101 wrote: |
As for the mechanics of teaching the children privately, you have to look at yourself as a unique mini-school where you must buy appropriate materials and make copies yourself. Don't expect the students or parents to provide them! Go to bookstores, stationary shops, youtube and the internet.
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Thank you. I was planning on setting up a mini-classroom in my spare bedroom, rather than an office space, I want to plan a sort of home-business (they are quite common here), to decorate and plan as a tutoring centre.
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I would caution against accepting privates from parents who say they just want you to talk to their children. They will soon be bored of this and complain about all sorts of things. These are the kinds of parents who tend to be 'difficult' because they don't have a clear idea as to what they expect from a private tutor.
The kind of students you want are the ones whose parents are determined to see their children do very well and they are not hurting for money. When they see their children do well with you, they will refer you to others. You never know what to expect. For example, this morning I got a call at about 8am from a very busy father who wanted to know if I could go to his daughter's international school to meet with her homeroom teacher and curriculum coordinator to go over her reading comprehension issues and go through a tutorial myself along with other private tutors who will also be attending. This is professional development! I consider it a opportunity to better myself as a tutor and hopefully get referred to when other students at this school are in need of private tutors.
This is a whole different kind of game than working for an employer. You really have to be an entrepreneur in your heart of hearts with a serious passion for teaching to make this work. Avoid 'difficult' parents if you care about your sanity. Just don't deal with them - it's not worth it. There's a world of other great parents out there who will be supportive and appreciate your hard work. |
Thank you. I am very familiar with those parents (Korean, particularly), it will be interesting to see what the Quebecois view is. I do plan on heading to the school district at a later date to familiarize myself with the curriculum materials - there is word that shortly, it will become law that students have half of their education in English, but that remains to be seen. It is a hot issue here.
LongShiKong wrote: |
santi84 wrote: |
Are there any books that specifically address private lesson for K-6 (or K-7) ?
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Good question? If you find one, let me know. I want to start teaching groups of kids on my own in September.
I have an ebook on tutoring one to one:
Teaching English one to one (McGraw-Hill's Teach Yourself Series)
...and some on teaching children:
Teaching English To Children (Longman Keys to Language Teaching)
Young Learners (Oxford Resource Books for Teachers)
Practical English Language Teaching - Young Learners (also from McGraw-Hill)
How to teach English to very young children
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Fantasticc link, thanks!!!
LongShiKong wrote: |
How much can we attribute these parental issues Expat101 warns about to teachers' lack of familiarity with L1 and C1 (culture1)? I'd never dream of going out on my own without a proficiency in Chinese.
I presume your fluent in French, Santi? |
Functionally, but I hope to be more proficient when I do this, which is probably 1-2 years away.
tttompatz wrote: |
Both Oxford University press and Cambridge University press have excellent resource material for teachers.
If you plan to make an occupation out of it (rather than a hobby for a homemaker) then you might want to add a YL cert to your TESL or look into an ECE certificate.
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Thanks. I'm really conflicted on what to do in terms of education, I have a 4 year degree in TESL which included 2 years of TESL courses alone but only around 5 classes related to TEYL and child language development. I'm seriously considering an MA which will certify me for public schools as well. The problem with making after-school and weekend tutoring a career is that I feel I would be leaving my own children behind. Seems odd I would go off to teach other kids and hire a nanny for mine. I'm looking at doing this as a part-time gig until I finish my MA and can start working in the day at a public school. |
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