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bhallang006
Joined: 25 Apr 2012
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Location: Wen Jiang, China
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I am currently finishing my third and final year at a school in a suburb of Chengdu. It has been great. My current RP expires 6/30/2012 The new FEC has been issued and the new RP has been applied for and paid (by me) I do know several other teachers in the area and none have had this problem
The first contract I signed with the new school was dated from Sept.1 2012 to July 30, 2013. I was fine with that. Then a couple of weeks later the school informs me that the powers that be have changed the rules and the contract must be re-done to include the dates July 1 2012 to June30, 2013. However the school wants a wavier including a release of liability for the summer and a statement from me that I don't want to be paid for the first two months of the contract. It seems fishy to me and I believe "the rock" has the correct assessment.
My plans for the summer are fluid but do not include living in the "apartment" the school is providing. It is unacceptable.
I don't need money, and I certainly do not need anyone to feed or house me. I do see the irony in leandrachair's response about standard business practice in China.
Thank you all for you advice and time, I believe I will re-evaluate my position with this school. |
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Miles Smiles
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Location: Heebee Jeebee
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I'd hold the school's feet to the fire and refuse to sign any change to the contract.
We'll see more and more of this, I think. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Location: Blabbing
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| Firstly, I had signed a contract with this school. Done deal. Then two weeks later I get an email saying to come to the main campus to discuss the terms of the contract. One there, I was told I must sign a new contract and a wavier. |
In that case, refuse to sign the new contract. There is no incentive for you to sign it. Ask them why you have to sign it.
Personally, I would not sign it, period. |
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Gringo Greg
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
Posts: 264
Location: Everywhere and nowhere
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| bhallang006 wrote: |
I am currently finishing my third and final year at a school in a suburb of Chengdu. It has been great. My current RP expires 6/30/2012 The new FEC has been issued and the new RP has been applied for and paid (by me) I do know several other teachers in the area and none have had this problem
The first contract I signed with the new school was dated from Sept.1 2012 to July 30, 2013. I was fine with that. Then a couple of weeks later the school informs me that the powers that be have changed the rules and the contract must be re-done to include the dates July 1 2012 to June30, 2013. However the school wants a wavier including a release of liability for the summer and a statement from me that I don't want to be paid for the first two months of the contract. It seems fishy to me and I believe "the rock" has the correct assessment.
My plans for the summer are fluid but do not include living in the "apartment" the school is providing. It is unacceptable.
I don't need money, and I certainly do not need anyone to feed or house me. I do see the irony in leandrachair's response about standard business practice in China.
Thank you all for you advice and time, I believe I will re-evaluate my position with this school. |
I see no problem in accepting the contract. They have changed nothing material from the contract that you signed in the first place, in terms of work requirements and total pay.
From my understanding, it has come down from on high that FEC/RP needs to match the contract. I guess the alternative for the school would be to tell you, hey your visa ends on June 30th, you have to leave China and get another Z visa and come back in September?
If a school is engaged in shenanigans, string them up. If a school is just trying to comply with government rules while keeping their teachers, then cut them some slack.
Remember, I'm the guy who started TeflWatch. |
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chinatimes
Joined: 27 May 2012
Posts: 478
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| The local authorities are only issuing Foreign Expert Certificates to teachers who sign one year contracts, which means they expect teachers to be paid for 12 months |
Where does it state this from the "authorities" standpoint?
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| is this a step in the right direction towards professionalism in the industry? |
Depends on what is happening. Teachers back home get paid every month, but their monthly salary is less. If you had a higher salary then I would think the summer months would be unpaid vacation time. Teachers can get paid for working at other schools.
In China this is doable too, so long as you go through the correct procedure in adding it as a second job.
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| If schools want qualified competent teachers then they need to provide the right conditions and packages, not some "10 month contract". |
I am doing one of those 10 month contracts also, but they are letting me live now rent free. If I were to get 12 months, then they wouldn't want me to start until September, I would have to pay at least a month's salary for rent until September.
Secondly, this is the hottest part of the year. If I don't want to work in July or August I don't have to without it negatively affecting me. If I want to, then I just get a second job as mentioned earlier.
So, in the end, would you rather have a lower salary and have to work more in order to get what you could earn from both the 10 month period and the other 2 months, or would you rather stay with the way it is now and have the choice to earn more than those 12 months together?
Also, I have never found it wise to put all your eggs in one basket. If you work full-time for a company then they know your schedule. If you work part-time then both companies have to see if you are available. This is similar but instead of being part-time, you are simply using the 2 extra months to make more money. The school still has to pay the same for the 10 months, regardless how much you make in the other 2. If you worked 12 months, would they allow this? Less likely, probably not. They would have you doing a summer camp and you wouldn't have the choice of taking time off. |
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