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A Dream Job Turned Into a Nightmare (long)
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Non Sequitur

Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject:

spiral78 wrote:

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The thread is good though as it has opened a dialogue on what is expected in the primary sector in PRC

Genuine question: has it? I thought the OP's dream job was high school. That's why I'm so hung up on the art and dancing and stuff - I could see it in early grades, of course.

Thanks for pointing that out. I've edited my post to read 'school sector'.

spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject:

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So the less prestigious schools will get the less skilled or motivated students. If you teach in a little-known college in a far-flung province/ state of a Western country, you won't see the top-flight students.

I'm at one of the top ten universities for Economics and International Business in the world. I reckon we're getting some of the cream of the crop.

Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:34 am Post subject:

Now, Spiral, I think you could only be sure of the creaminess level if you could verify that your Chinese intake's hula skills were up to scratch. Please inform us of your discoveries. This could potentially impact on my IELTS prep classes...

Lobster

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Posts: 2040
Location: Somewhere under the Sea

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:10 am Post subject:

Easy math. Drama + Queen = total meltdown. RED

artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 875
Location: the world

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:31 am Post subject:

Sashadroogie wrote:

Now, Spiral, I think you could only be sure of the creaminess level if you could verify that your Chinese intake's hula skills were up to scratch. Please inform us of your discoveries. This could potentially impact on my IELTS prep classes...

Ditto. I'm now wondering if my own approach (focusing on language and academic skills) with the many Chinese students I've had in my classes has been criminally remiss. Should I have been introducing them to a few twists and twirls to aid their dreams of pursuing tertiary-level qualifications in English?

It's quite a treat for me to imagine their reactions.

scholar

Joined: 18 May 2012
Posts: 159

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject:

spiral78 wrote:

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I'm at one of the top ten universities for Economics and International Business in the world. I reckon we're getting some of the cream of the crop.

Likely you get those most able to afford to pay for high grades in high school and have their admissions essays professionally written.

spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:58 pm Post subject:

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Also keep in mind, different schools and programs in the West have different standards and admissions requirements, and also costs. So the less prestigious schools will get the less skilled or motivated students. If you teach in a little-known college in a far-flung province/ state of a Western country, you won't see the top-flight students.

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I'm at one of the top ten universities for Economics and International Business in the world. I reckon we're getting some of the cream of the crop.
Likely you get those most able to afford to pay for high grades in high school and have their admissions essays professionally written

So, scholar, if the well-prepared and highly skilled ones don't go to either little-known or top-flight Western universities, where should we look for these needles in haystacks, pray tell??[/b]

scholar

Joined: 18 May 2012
Posts: 159

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject:

Tsinghua University, Fudan, Beijing University, and large Western state land-grant universities. Especially graduate school.

Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject:

artemisia wrote:

Sashadroogie wrote:

I rather think it has been been very remiss of you. You could possibly face a suspension or worse disciplinary proceedings if you don't recant your errors.

it'snotmyfault

Joined: 14 May 2012
Posts: 527

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject:

Sashadroogie wrote:

artemisia wrote:

Sashadroogie wrote:

I rather think it has been been very remiss of you. You could possibly face a suspension or worse disciplinary proceedings if you don't recant your errors.

you could redeem yourself by throwing in a quick Morris dancing lesson followed by a welly wanging competition

scholar

Joined: 18 May 2012
Posts: 159

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:20 pm Post subject:

scholar wrote:

Tsinghua University, Fudan, Beijing University, and large Western state land-grant universities. Especially graduate school.

Also should note, the top Chinese students like to head to university in the U.S., because Chinese people view U.S. as the best-education country. Canada, UK etc. get good students, but most typically U.S. is the top choice of Chinese students because they think it had "name brand value." Not to say that I personally think that way. I am american but also respect the universities of other countries. But in my experience, Chinese students think U.S. schools have a halo.

artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 875
Location: the world

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:32 am Post subject:

it'snotmyfault wrote:

Sashadroogie wrote:

artemisia wrote:

Sashadroogie wrote:

I rather think it has been been very remiss of you. You could possibly face a suspension or worse disciplinary proceedings if you don't recant your errors.

you could redeem yourself by throwing in a quick Morris dancing lesson followed by a welly wanging competition

I can see I've been far too one-dimensional and need to incorporate a multi-faceted approach. I think I'll go for a Maori haka. After all I learnt a few of them in primary school, so why can't they learn at least one war dance? They had better appreciate my efforts or I'll get my mates onto them.

fred13331

Joined: 20 Feb 2012
Posts: 108
Location: Southern China

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:10 am Post subject:

spiral78 wrote:

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I'm at one of the top ten universities for Economics and International Business in the world. I reckon we're getting some of the cream of the crop.

In China? I think not

Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:38 am Post subject:

Spiral's in Canadaland.

Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:40 am Post subject:

artemisia wrote:

it'snotmyfault wrote:

Sashadroogie wrote:

artemisia wrote:

Sashadroogie wrote:

I rather think it has been been very remiss of you. You could possibly face a suspension or worse disciplinary proceedings if you don't recant your errors.

you could redeem yourself by throwing in a quick Morris dancing lesson followed by a welly wanging competition

I think you have not been as multi-kulti as you should have been. I'd strongly recommend some caber-tossing followed by some 'hide the pi�ata'.

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