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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: |
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The US Govt telling people to be on guard just in case of any retaliation, is not "cartels vowing to kill Americans". Good grief. I've read the official warning in it's entirety. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi Mod Team
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 6613 Location: Need to know basis only.
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Inappropriate, off-topic and derailing postings have been deleted.
Address the topic and the message rather than the messenger.
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Samantha wrote: |
The US Govt telling people to be on guard just in case of any retaliation, is not "cartels vowing to kill Americans". Good grief. I've read the official warning in it's entirety. |
Here's the short form from the Yahoo's link...
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The U.S. Embassy alerts U.S. citizens traveling and residing in Mexico to the enhanced potential for violence related to today�s arrests of Transnational Criminal Organization (TCO) associates and family members residing in the United States.
This morning, U.S. federal law enforcement agents arrested associates and family members of a senior TCO member, and seized property and assets within the United States. These arrests could result in some form of retaliation and/or anti-American violence. Given the history and resources of this violent TCO, the U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to maintain a low profile and a heightened sense of awareness.
Please review the Department of State�s Travel Warning concerning travel within Mexico and the state of Tamaulipas, available at http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5665.html. The Department continues to advise U.S. citizens to defer non-essential travel to the state of Tamaulipas. We also encourage U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State Department's travel registration web site at https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/ui/ so that they can obtain updated information on travel and security. Americans without internet access may register in person or by phone with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy or Consulate to contact them in case of emergency.
For any emergencies involving American citizens in the Matamoros consular district, please call or visit the American Citizens Services (ACS) Unit at the U.S. Consulate General on Avenida Primera #2002, Col. Jard�n, Matamoros, Tamaulipas. Telephone 011 (52) (868) 812-4402; http://matamoros.usconsulate.gov/. |
I don't see cartels or TCOs or any particular cartel (Zetas in this case) vowing anything either. They point out Tamaulipas and give the usual lame advice of 'keep your head down'. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Samantha wrote: |
The US Govt telling people to be on guard just in case of any retaliation, is not "cartels vowing to kill Americans". Good grief. I've read the official warning in it's entirety. |
Here's the short form from the Yahoo's link...
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The U.S. Embassy alerts U.S. citizens traveling and residing in Mexico to the enhanced potential for violence related to today�s arrests of Transnational Criminal Organization (TCO) associates and family members residing in the United States.
This morning, U.S. federal law enforcement agents arrested associates and family members of a senior TCO member, and seized property and assets within the United States. These arrests could result in some form of retaliation and/or anti-American violence. Given the history and resources of this violent TCO, the U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to maintain a low profile and a heightened sense of awareness.
Please review the Department of State�s Travel Warning concerning travel within Mexico and the state of Tamaulipas, available at http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5665.html. The Department continues to advise U.S. citizens to defer non-essential travel to the state of Tamaulipas. We also encourage U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad to register with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate through the State Department's travel registration web site at https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/ui/ so that they can obtain updated information on travel and security. Americans without internet access may register in person or by phone with the nearest U.S. Embassy or Consulate. By registering, American citizens make it easier for the Embassy or Consulate to contact them in case of emergency.
For any emergencies involving American citizens in the Matamoros consular district, please call or visit the American Citizens Services (ACS) Unit at the U.S. Consulate General on Avenida Primera #2002, Col. Jard�n, Matamoros, Tamaulipas. Telephone 011 (52) (868) 812-4402; http://matamoros.usconsulate.gov/. |
I don't see cartels or TCOs or any particular cartel (Zetas in this case) vowing anything either. They point out Tamaulipas and give the usual lame advice of 'keep your head down'. |
Best advice is to just avoid Mexico... Plenty of other places where the TEFL market is better anyways |
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Tretyakovskii
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 462 Location: Cancun, Mexico
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Prof, the warnings you issue from time to time remind me of a little joke Russians used to like to tell.
""The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse". The optimist says, "It can, it can!"" |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 1520 Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Tretyakovskii wrote: |
Prof, the warnings you issue from time to time remind me of a little joke Russians used to like to tell.
""The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse". The optimist says, "It can, it can!"" |
I like that, T! |
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Tretyakovskii
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 462 Location: Cancun, Mexico
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad you did, Guapa.
Heeding these warnings has given me a permanently stooped posture, from keeping my head down. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Tretyakovskii wrote: |
Prof, the warnings you issue from time to time remind me of a little joke Russians used to like to tell.
""The pessimist says, "It can't get any worse". The optimist says, "It can, it can!"" |
Glad to be of service, feel free to read or not read as you prefer, I prefer to know what's going on, instead of sticking my head into the proverbial sand. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Dragonlady wrote: |
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Glad to be of service, feel free to read or not read as you prefer, I prefer to know what's going on, instead of sticking my head into the proverbial sand. |
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It doesn't matter where you are or if you teach or not. The US embassy warning never mentioned a vow to kill Americans but it also didn't mention people teaching in Mexico...one has to assume it was an oversight by the cartels. Who knows what else they meant to say? |
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Tretyakovskii
Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 462 Location: Cancun, Mexico
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Best advice is to just avoid Mexico... |
If I'd heeded that advice, I'd have missed all the positive things living and working in the country have brought me and my wife, over the last three and a half years.
This summer I started a course called, "Introduction to the Chinese Language and Culture." You think that's not fun? In addition to language and culture, we look at the history of China, and the problems of modern Chinese society, as well. I meet that class two days a week, and my International Business English classes daily, during the summer term, so it's a fast pace, but I like it.
There are so many who have come here and established a rewarding life for themselves that it distresses me to see others being actively discouraged from giving it a shot. I'm sure it's not for everyone, but where in the world is? |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2038 Location: Mexican Riviera
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:48 am Post subject: |
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Exactly right, T. That's what's so great about life. People and places differ vastly. Mexico isn't for everyone...so be it. I can't imagine still being stuck on the hamster wheel I left behind up north, instead of living the life I enjoy here in Mexico. |
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canada_1986
Joined: 23 Nov 2011 Posts: 44 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:26 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the last two posts. What saddens me is that while people obsess over "what-if" scenarios in Mexico and Mexico City, there have been two recent broad-daylight murders in Toronto, both in places I've been to in the past year. One of them occurred just yesterday, at a cafe where people were watching a Euro Cup match. The other occurred in a shopping mall.
When I was in university, we had a number of armed robberies near the campus where students had laptops stolen at gunpoint. And, more recently, one neighbourhood in my home city has had multiple gang-related shootings, at least one of which was fatal. These are things that at least one Mexican has tried to tell me "doesn't happen" in so-called first-world countries. That neighbourhood has had more shootings since January than there have been in my colonia since I've lived here.
The point is, bad things happen everywhere. While some people obsess over the negatives about Mexico, they forget about the rest of the world. The fact is, the whole world is a dangerous place. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:44 am Post subject: |
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I've spent more than half my adult life in Mexico and still haven't had as much crime happen to me here as I did in tranquil Ottawa.
Living here really opened my eyes to what the media is and how it controls us. Headlines like Cartels vow to KILL Americans!!! (WARNING) are all too common in this fear model they'll have us live in. |
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Dragonlady
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 720 Location: Chillinfernow, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:00 am Post subject: |
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I just have this sudden urge to grab two little pink cheeks and give someone's head a little abuela shake....
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