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When are you obliged to leave China?
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Lord Bafford



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:42 am    Post subject: When are you obliged to leave China? Reply with quote

If, for example, your residence permit expires on 30 June, do you have to leave China on or before this date?

I have a friend who has booked a ticket for one week after their residence permit expires: are they in for a nasty fine and/or a bollicking at the airport?
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The Edge



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is prudent to leave either before or on the date of expiration.
I have heard various true stories of leniency for being a few days over and also of fines imposed for taking the p1ss (2 weeks late, etc).
Overstaying a visa or work permit is not a shrewd thing to do in any country (such as your own).
Why on earth would it be much different here?
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GeminiTiger



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

your friend can a visa extension at many offices across china.
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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rules preached in China seem to be overly strict. I have never seen authorities in Beijing or Shanghai (and a few other less known places) not give an L visa. This is a tourist visa and are typically good for 30 days. So, you could get extra time this way.

I am not saying you should overstay your existing visa. What I am saying is you go in before the dates in your contract and visa and explain why you want to stay. Do it ahead of time and I am sure you will not have a problem.
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hells_kitchen



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is little question. The date, called an expiration date, is the date at which the permit/visa becomes invalid. Thus, you are required to leave the country BEFORE it expires - in other words, by the end of the day prior to the date of expiration. While you are unlikely to be reprimanded or punished leaving on the same day as expiration, the answer is what it is.
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get an L visa to cover the extra days. It's no big deal. It happens all the time. As long as you're out of the school facilities or are square with your landlord, there should be no problems.

I've done it.
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Lord Bafford



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hells_kitchen wrote:
There is little question. The date, called an expiration date, is the date at which the permit/visa becomes invalid. Thus, you are required to leave the country BEFORE it expires - in other words, by the end of the day prior to the date of expiration. While you are unlikely to be reprimanded or punished leaving on the same day as expiration, the answer is what it is.



You have me worried now.

But surely if it says valid until the 30th of June, that includes that day?

I'm due to fly out tomorrow(30 June), so I really hope I'm not in for a nasty surprise. Crying or Very sad
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem. I've done that too.
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Mr. Leafy



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bafford, I have had resident and other long-term visas in several countries (although never China). Don't worry, they have always been good to the end of the day on which they expire.
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Lord Bafford



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you both for the reassurance!

It really would be a kick in the balls to get entangled in some nasty immigration dispute and lose my 5000 RMB plane ticket.
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hells_kitchen



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

obliged or obligated ... which is the better word (just out of curiosity) ?
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colonel



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hells_kitchen wrote:
obliged or obligated ... which is the better word (just out of curiosity) ?


obligated = must

obliged = should
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Lobster



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The visa expires at midnight on the date shown. Therefore you need to leave before midnight on June 30. You could be fined, detained or denied re-entry if you overstay the visa. Leave before it's expired or get a tourist visa extension.

RED
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therock



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hells_kitchen wrote:
obliged or obligated ... which is the better word (just out of curiosity) ?


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Now Mr. 50 mao is asking for help.

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scholar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foreigners should obey China's laws, policies, and regulations. Plan ahead so that you do not stay beyond your visa limit. China has much to offer but it does not welcome foreigners who choose to break the law or traditions.
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