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rogerwilco · Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549

doogsville has it completely correct

fred13331 · Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 108 Location: Southern China

We tried - many people with experience in China have told you with no ambiguity YOU WILL NOT BE PAID THAT FIRST MONTH It is a message that has come from many angles, all with experience. You chose to ignore it, trusting in the contract despite the fact you have been told it is worthless.

So be it

let's move on

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

Lobster · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject:

Paid 600 rmb with 8,000 rmb deducted for "expenses".

RED

scholar · Joined: 18 May 2012 Posts: 159

Take your medical records, and then when you arrive in China, shop around until you find a trusted primary-care medical provider. Set up a consultation and Skype your home-country doctor in -- the Chinese medical facility should have a qualified medical interpreter handy -- to discuss your medical history and concerns. Then, if problem arise in the future, your new health-care provider in China will be prepared to treat you while taking into account your full medical narrative.

As far as the payment, a contract is a contract in China and you will certainly be paid as promised. This is optional, but maybe you could request this payment in advance. Could they wire it to you in your home country? This would help you to be prepared with more reserves on arrival. It would also help you on the trip over in case you want to buy some snacks or a paperback book in the airport. It can't hurt to ask.

rogerwilco · Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549

ESL.Professor.Roger · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 68

And maybe, just maybe, the plane will crash over the Pacific.

Or maybe, just maybe, it's all been some big joke and there is no job there.

Maybe, just maybe, I've just been winding everyone up myself.

Platitudes do not help. Concrete advice will (and no, "expect to get screwed" is *not* concrete advice.)

I have detailed (some of the) steps I have taken to protect myself.

If you have other steps to suggest I'm wililng to listen.

If not, and all you want to do is rag on Chinese employers, I heartily invite you to start a thread to discuss that topic.

My thanks to all who have offered constructive advice. It's all in the hands of whomever decides on the work visa now.

ESL.Professor.Roger · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 68

ESL.Professor.Roger · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 68

ESL.Professor.Roger · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 68

fred13331 · Joined: 20 Feb 2012 Posts: 108 Location: Southern China

ESL.Professor.Roger · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 68

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

JamesD · Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject:

I really hate these threads that degrade into sniping, but I thought I might throw in a point or two here.

Chinese often have trouble with prepositions and assumptions. Is it possible that they mean being paid FROM 20.08.2012? To them it's confirmation of your start date.

Or possibly they are going to consider this a loan to be paid back. Even if the contract doesn't state this, the school could be considering this an advance on first month salary. To a westerner this would not be typical thinking but these contracts are not written by westerners.

I'm not saying this is what will happen but don't be surprised if it does. Some posters do go overboard on the criticism and snide remarks but try to remember that the ones here with experience are more use to dealing with the mindset and can often offer alternate interpretations that will seem odd to anyone who has not worked with Chinese employers.

ESL.Professor.Roger · Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 68