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IvanaShaanxi
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| twilothunder wrote: |
According to same friends, the issue is probably not to do with South Africans' command of English, more likely the amount of Africans who fraudulently obtain SA passports. |
It's not only about South Africans, but all non-native speakers (me being one of them). Apparently they aren't able to get a legal Z visa anymore |
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roadwalker
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Miles Smiles wrote: |
If it's a new law, then it MUST be very new. I find it hard to believe that the news of the law would be general knowledge within a week, though. Then again, TIC.
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I would expect it to be known to everyone immediately. That's why I am amazed at recruiters and schools who haven't heard about it.
I mean, what's going on? |
OP - Do you have a link to your source for this new law? Why are you so sure there is a new law? |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| IvanaShaanxi wrote: |
I would expect it to be known to everyone immediately. That's why I am amazed at recruiters and schools who haven't heard about it.
I mean, what's going on? |
Please tell me how it would it become known to everyone immediately? Who would tell the FTs? FTs often find out when one resourceful person follows the news or chances upon similar news.
RARELY is information disseminated from Chinese management to foreign teachers immediately. In some provinces, laws are ignored altogether by the authorities, so word doesn't get out or it is ignored because it can't be verified. |
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Lobster
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| Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| terms that would leave other western native English speakers a bit baffled |
Those are Aussies, silly.
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Kiwi303
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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Location: Chong Qing Jiao Tong Da Xue, Xue Fu Da Dao, Nan An Qu, Chong Qing Shi, P. R China
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| terms that would leave other western native English speakers a bit baffled |
Those are Aussies, silly.
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Not only, I am a Kiwi, I occasionally use terms like Mana, Kai, Kia Kaha, Whanau, Aotearoa and so on. I may not be Maori myself, but I grew up beside and around them. |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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"Not only, I am a Kiwi, I occasionally use terms like Mana, Kai, Kia Kaha, Whanau, Aotearoa and so on. I may not be Maori myself, but I grew up beside and around them."
"And so on"? How is your Chinese?
Red,
Add the Kiwis to the list.
PS Even I know that Aotearoa is the Maori name for new Zealand. |
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Lobster
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Well I may put on my parka, toque and mukluks and pull my papoose on my toboggan, but I don't use those words when I'm teaching.
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Kiwi303
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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"And so on"? How is your Chinese?
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I was refering to further Maori terms like Hangi and Hongi etc rather than chinese. My chinese is still at the Ni Hao, xie xie and occasional place names level.
Through I use some indian derived words that americans would probably be baffled by and UK residents recognise. Like Dekko, which is derived from the indian term for "take a look at" since a large proportion of early colonial time settlers were discharged ex-india UK servicemen shifted from India to NZ for the 1860's land wars and subsequently discharged with land grants. |
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IvanaShaanxi
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| Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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OP - Do you have a link to your source for this new law? Why are you so sure there is a new law? |
Hi, I don't have any link. My only source of information is the one I stated in the entry post. But that one sounds pretty trustworthy. |
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kev7161
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| We had a teacher from South Africa join us last school year (2011-2012). Due to personal reasons, she returned to SA at the end of the school year. I asked her and the school on separate occasions on whether she'd return if her personal issues were straightened out (she was a GOOD teacher)? Both responses were about the same: No, because it's too difficult to get a visa for those from South Africa. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| terms that would leave other western native English speakers a bit baffled |
Those are Aussies, silly.
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Not only, I am a Kiwi, I occasionally use terms like Mana, Kai, Kia Kaha, Whanau, Aotearoa and so on. I may not be Maori myself, but I grew up beside and around them. |
Curious if there are any Maori teaching English in China... |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:57 am Post subject: |
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Well I may put on my parka, toque and mukluks and pull my papoose on my toboggan, but I don't use those words when I'm teaching.
RED |
Can Eskimos and Wisconsinites get Z visas too?
I wonder if Native Americans have difficulties getting Z visas. |
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Brian Hugh
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I think there are problems on a political level that are stopping SA from entering the country. Last year I had a job that lasted a few months. The apartment was occupied by a South African who had taught at the school for two years. All his things were boxed and in suitcases. He hadn't been in the place for 6 months. He probably went to Hong Kong or back home and was told he coulcn't come back in.
Many SA's in Taiwan and South Korea. |
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