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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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 Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Thongsook College |
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| Bruce wrote: |
| http://thongsookinternational.com/index.php/ba-tesol.html |
Are you paying to advertise in the forums now (as well as the banner ads) or do banner advertisers get to spam the forums with their ads?
NOTE to others who may be interested ...
Do be aware that this "degree" offered by a generic TEFL provider at a Thai college (we won't go into the chances (or not) of using a Thai degree to work outside of Thailand) also requires you to work illegally in Thailand on an EDU visa (with "not legal to work" clearly printed on the face of the visa) for 3 years in order to complete your degree.
It is also NOT operated through the College registrar's office or even acknowledged on the college's own website but only through some generic TEFL providers website.
What was that Clint Eastwood line, "Do you feel lucky...?"
Since this "course provider" is a sponsor of this board I suspect that this post will not stay for long. Hopefully the spam ad will disappear along with my post.
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MaiPenRai
Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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Location: BKK
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:36 am Post subject: |
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IMHO, the integrity of this board is being called into question if that spam is allowed to stay.
Its understandable to not allow naming and shaming of schools and organizations by posters, BUT
IMHO, spam ads on the forum should not be allowed either.
Approach this "degree" with caution. Based on everything I've heard and researched, it looks like it may only be an option for someone older than 50 who needs to stay in Thailand (needs a degree to teach legally) and doesn't plan on utilizing the "degree" outside of Thailand. |
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Four
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Can you teach anywhere in Asia without a degree ? |
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| microbabe wrote: |
Hi,
I�m sure this has been asked before , but I can�t find it.Is it possible these days,in Asia, to teach legally without a degree ? I am a UK citizen and passport holder.
Thanks,
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A passport holder???? Wtf is that sth worth mentioning? |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Can you teach anywhere in Asia without a degree ? |
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| Four wrote: |
| microbabe wrote: |
Hi,
I�m sure this has been asked before , but I can�t find it.Is it possible these days,in Asia, to teach legally without a degree ? I am a UK citizen and passport holder.
Thanks,
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A passport holder???? Wtf is that sth worth mentioning? |
As in, "Hold a UK passport" as compared to a dual citizen ie: UK/Indian and holding an Indian passport rather than a UK one.
It is worth mentioning since it means he can work in the EU but NOT in most of Asia (no degree) or North America (wrong passport).
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Four
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
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But the thread is about Asia.  |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| Four wrote: |
| But the thread is about Asia. |
I should know better than to feed the newbie trolls but...
| tttompatz wrote: |
| It is worth mentioning since it means he can work in the EU |
A legal option for him
| tttompatz wrote: |
| but NOT in most of Asia (no degree) or North America (wrong passport). |
And you can also add... that for (legal) work without requiring proof of English skills (IELTS/TOEIC, etc) or to obtain the correct visa that for most of Asia a PASSPORT from one of "UK, USA, Canada, NZ or Aus" is required so ya...
The troll can go back to sleep or back to the other boards where trolling is an acceptable sport.
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Four
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| So having a UK passport is irrelevant. |
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spiffing
Joined: 04 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| In Vietnam, officially the degree/s must represent at least four years of full time study. |
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plumpy nut
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| Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Many Thai schools will hire ESL teachers without any Thai permits. It is very common. Only the Thai Embassy in Vientienne bothers teachers about not having permits, and they don't bother very much. However don't ever forge documents to get something in Thailand because then they do care, and they care a lot.
As far as Vietnam goes, Vietnamese immigration will sometimes license bachelor degreeless teachers to teach in the country if the hiring school pleads with immigration to allow it. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| plumpy nut wrote: |
Many Thai schools will hire ESL teachers without any Thai permits. It is very common. Only the Thai Embassy in Vientienne bothers teachers about not having permits, and they don't bother very much. However don't ever forge documents to get something in Thailand because then they do care, and they care a lot.
As far as Vietnam goes, Vietnamese immigration will sometimes license bachelor degreeless teachers to teach in the country if the hiring school pleads with immigration to allow it. |
Or just teach in VN on a tourist visa like the other 98% of foreign teachers already do. |
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miso_ramen
Joined: 06 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I thought I'd add something about teaching in Indonesia. It has been mentioned in this thread that Indonesia does not require a degree. In fact, Indonesia has some of the strictest requirements as it requires a BA in English to work legally.
However, this being Indonesia enforcement is lax and a lot of schools are paying bribes to get the visa, whilst some e.g. Wall Street are trying to stick to the rules and only hiring English grads. I hear that they are finding this very difficult, which is presumably why their salary is higher than most.
This being said, nearly all the schools I have come across do require a degree, because that way it is easier (cheaper) to bribe immigration/Manpower. |
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