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the grind in shanghai
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GeminiTiger



Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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Location: China, 2005--Present

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st post:

I love to VISIT Shanghai, for a day, or two days. I do my shopping, eat and drink my fills and after that all I see is 100 RMB taxi rides, smog and an endless sea of humanity.

Not for me thanks.

However, China would suck without it.

That is called paradox!
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7969



Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been to Shanghai a few times. Interesting stuff to see but I've never stayed longer than a day or two on any visit. I like my little backwater outpost here in the south. You couldn't pay me enough to live and work in a place like Shanghai.
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basbas



Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LongShiKong wrote:
LeopoldBloom wrote:
I don't want to go off topic...

You weren't asked to. Read the OP's post again.

LeopoldBloom wrote:
...the land of Big Brother is certainly no utopia, no double-speak there, maybe I could say it like that...

Welcome to China. As with the OP, seems like you're both into stage 2 of culture shock. Rest assured: it'll pass.


no, not culture shock, more like 'cash crunch' or 'financial hardship brought on by low pay'
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LongShiKong



Joined: 28 May 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basbas wrote:


no, not culture shock, more like 'cash crunch' or 'financial hardship brought on by low pay'


But that's not a result of living in Shanghai. Although rents there and in Beijing are much higher than smaller cities, you won't find too many 10,000+ RMB jobs in China with nice, clean, spacious apartments provided. Mine is an exception but when I tried giving it away (12,000 clear--no tax, small classes with few students, few teaching hours), I got only 2 replies expressing only mild interest. For all those who want to make 20,000/mo, get your B.Ed and teach at int'l schools or follow the advice of the poster who teaches corporate classes on his own (anyone have the url?).

Edit: Last year, Longman Schools also didn't deduct tax from my 11,000.
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LeopoldBloom



Joined: 08 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LongshiKong: I was responding to the questions directed to me. He wanted a broader context for my why I'm not gung ho China experience. Read his two posts previous to mine. I wasn't responding to the OP. This is a thread and just as one person in a cafe begins a topic and conversation, chatting often bounces around and splinters into other related discussions. Ideally we try to stay near the original road as it were, the topic, and I don't want to encourage too much off-topic bantering about.

I had my point and made it basically. And I'm Bloom, not Oscar Wilde; I'll not stand tribunal for my entirely warranted negative perception of the middle shamdam.

BTW, I'm in not in China anymore (thank goodness!). I'm in amazing Vietnam now. I love it here.

Bloom.
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