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bohsjeff
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 Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:22 pm Post subject: Considering a move to China |
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Hi guys,
Myself and my girlfriend are trying to find work in Shanghai for a while .
I am a native speaker with a degree and 120 hour tefl cert with no experience and my girlfriend is a non-native but she has 2 masters and a degree in top colleges that were English taught in the UK along with a tefl cert.
I am looking for some advice on how to go about finding work and if it is possible for the 2 us to find work.
Any advice or info would be much appreciated. |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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Limiting your search to Shanghai makes your task a lot more difficult, and if by "a while" you mean at least six months to a year then finding work for both of you is possible as there are many non-native speakers already teaching English in China. But as a non-native speaker your gf will (likely/possibly/maybe) have more difficulty finding something than you. Start looking and see what kind of replies you get.
China TEFL Jobs
ESL Teachers Board Jobs |
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GeminiTiger
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
Posts: 999
Location: China, 2005--Present
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Considering a move to China |
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Jeff,
If your white you should be able to find a job rather easily. However it is highly recommended you find that job be coming here to avoid a very expensive mistake of having to fly home again to get a proper visa.
Your girlfriend, if not white, will have lot more difficult task in finding work, let alone something that requires a masters.
China requires it's workers to fit it's preconceptions, not a lot of open mindedness here.
Also your girlfriend will not have any access to a spouse visa or anything so finding work here for both of you in Shanghai to get visas might be dam well impossible.
The good news is Shanghai has plenty of girls if your looking to make a change. -- haha-- kidding.. |
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Miles Smiles
Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Location: Heebee Jeebee
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Buy your plane tickets today, fly into Shanghai, and go get a job. Schools are begging for white westerners who speak English. You don't need any experience whatsoever. Bring a guitar with you or buy one here, and teach them to sing "Ninety-nine Bottles of Beer on the Wall." When that gets old, move on to "Happy Birthday."
TEFL is all you need to teach. You internalized all of the rules of grammar by the time you were three years old anyway.
So yeah, come on over. Teaching is an easy job, and it's even easier in China. |
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TexasHighway
Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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GeminiTiger wrote:
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| If your white you should be able to find a job rather easily. |
If his WHAT is white??? |
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GeminiTiger
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
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Location: China, 2005--Present
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| TexasHighway wrote: |
GeminiTiger wrote:
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| If your white you should be able to find a job rather easily. |
If his WHAT is white??? |
His mother and father.  |
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time to teach
Joined: 03 Feb 2011
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Location: Bangkok
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Plenty of jobs for you and your girlfriend in Shanghai and also Beijing, take a look at e china cities dot com, I don't think we can post the link here as it competes with their jobs section but I'll give it a try:
http://jobs.echinacities.com/ |
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Miles Smiles
Joined: 07 Jun 2010
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Location: Heebee Jeebee
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Just don't make the mistake of reading the laws regarding visas, etc.. They're really just suggestions. Perhaps they should be considered deliberate obstacles to keep the wimps out. China wants strong, fearless FTs to lead this generation forward. You won't get anywhere in China if you believe the claptrap that you read about rules in China.
Come on over. Somebody ALWAYS knows a way around the law here, so just come over. |
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Ariadne
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Your/you're... different meanings. Once might be a typo, but when it happens all the time I figure the poster doesn't care or just plain doesn't know the difference. Which brings me to their/there/they're...
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Dedicated
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The original post was grammatically correct. It was Gemini Tiger who displayed a range of grammatical errors. |
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Miles Smiles
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| The original post was grammatically correct. |
Nope, ESLers.
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| Myself and my girlfriend are trying to find work in Shanghai for a while . |
First sentence:
Myself is a reflexive pronoun that is used for emphasis. It may be in the nominative case (i.e., the case of a subject) when it is used to emphasize the preceeding personal pronoun "I".
Example: I myself dug the hole or I dug the hole myself.
The first construction is little used. The second is more common.
"Myself" may be used in the objective case (usually as the object of a preposition or as an indirect object).
Example: I sent a letter to myself.
In light of the fact that myself cannot be used as a subject, the first sentence is observed to have one major grammatical flaw right from the beginning.
Whoever needs explanations for the rest of the first sentence and the rest of the post doesn't belong in a job teaching English anywhere. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Miles Smiles wrote: |
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| The original post was grammatically correct. |
Nope, ESLers.
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| Myself and my girlfriend are trying to find work in Shanghai for a while . |
First sentence:
Myself is a reflexive pronoun that is used for emphasis. It may be in the nominative case (i.e., the case of a subject) when it is used to emphasize the preceeding personal pronoun "I".
Example: I myself dug the hole or I dug the hole myself.
The first construction is little used. The second is more common.
"Myself" may be used in the objective case (usually as the object of a preposition or as an indirect object).
Example: I sent a letter to myself.
In light of the fact that myself cannot be used as a subject, the first sentence is observed to have one major grammatical flaw right from the beginning.
Whoever needs explanations for the rest of the first sentence and the rest of the post doesn't belong in a job teaching English anywhere. |
It cannot be used as a subject, but here we have it clearly used as the subject. Is there some meaning lost by this usage? If not, then it implies it can be used as a subject. Grammar rules are like Chinese government guidelines, they are made to be broken (or is that like a pinata?). |
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Miles Smiles
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No, no meaning is lost, but it is not standard English. Pidgin English is usually understood by native speakers of English, but should it be taught in a class that calls for standard English?
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| Is there some meaning lost by this usage? If not, then it implies it can be used as a subject. |
Geez.  |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| Miles Smiles wrote: |
No, no meaning is lost, but it is not standard English. Pidgin English is usually understood by native speakers of English, but should it be taught in a class that calls for standard English?
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| Is there some meaning lost by this usage? If not, then it implies it can be used as a subject. |
Geez. |
Haha, I am just messing around. However, do note that this is not a classroom.  |
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Brian Hugh
Joined: 07 Jan 2012
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Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| This attempt at posturing over grammar is sad. Even if one has perfect Chinese you will have trouble communicating here. Getting work in China is difficult for the Chinese now. My suggestion is to stay put and teach the Chinese that have money and living abroad. |
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